Machinepriest Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Heyo. I have to admit that I was one of the many skeptics when it comes to the spanking new Canis Wolfborn model. I'm not very happy with the head of Canis himself as I think it looks like a bit of a lazy job in terms of sculpting with the loose hair and beard just hanging there. I would have preferred some of the characteristic braids that adorns so many of the other heads in the new range, and also it would have been awesome if it came with an optional helmeted head. And as I'm sure you all agree, the fact that his entire body, plus the head ( :tu: ) is stuck to the massive metal piece that is Fangir is just a major bummer. BUT... My biggest gripe was with Fangir himself. The head. I just thought it looked too... What's the word I'm looking for? Stubby? The snout was just not long enough which in my humble opinion made it look more like a dog than a wolf. You might notice that I'm writing "was" and not "is", and that's why I'm starting this topic. I just saw this on coolminiornot and was surprised at how much better Fangir's head look than on the model painted by the studio: http://www.coolminiornot.com/233580 (Hoping that the link works) As I wrote in my comment, the head looks a bit different. Longer somehow. While searching for photos of the components I stumbled on this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZJn682oklM (This guy make some awesome unboxing videos BTW) Same thing here. When he shows the head of Fangir it does indeed look like it has a longer snout than the studio model. I might just be imagining things here as I haven't slept much lately, but I was wondering if anyone can confirm this? Maybe someone who actually owns the model. Am I seeing things or does it look different on CMON and youtube? I'm going to rest for a while now... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 My main gripe is the wolf....it looks like it's part way through digesting a hippo... ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2144447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmwulf Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I agree that the model seems to look better than on the studio painting picture. I still can't bring myself to like the model for the reasons that have been stated across this board. How does he hit stuff with his claws from up there? How can he handle a wild animal without using his hands/slicing the wolf up? His name is ridicoulous. Canis means dog in Latin, so the guy is called dog wolfborn? or in the german translation he would be called dog wolfblood. I like the bounty hunter dog but this is just silly nevertheless. The model is way too expensive moneywise. At least for me, because i would use him at best from time to time. Finally, his rules are just not that good. I heard of many many battles were canis fled the board really quickly due to his ld. especially when he joins a unit of fenris wolves, panic from shooting ruins his day. I also think his rules are a little bit too weak for his point cost, but that is just my personal judgement. If he had some kind of glaive/spear, a better name and ld9 i would probably like him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2144486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterseven Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I kind if liked Canis himself, i thought the shaddy hair and beard actually made him look like a Viking. I also think its a real shame that they sculpted him onto the wolf and not seperately as i would stuck him on a 'blinged up bike' replaceda lightening claw with a bikers arm and used him as a counts as Wolf lord or something. (that said, i'm a painter and converter and by no means a gamer so i cant really comment on rules etc). So i will agree to being a bit dissapointed by the model, especially when the likes of Ragnar, Ulrik and the Ironpriest could have done with being updated....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2145391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvtalon Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I agree that the model seems to look better than on the studio painting picture. I still can't bring myself to like the model for the reasons that have been stated across this board. How does he hit stuff with his claws from up there? How can he handle a wild animal without using his hands/slicing the wolf up? His name is ridicoulous. Canis means dog in Latin, so the guy is called dog wolfborn? or in the german translation he would be called dog wolfblood. I like the bounty hunter dog but this is just silly nevertheless. The model is way too expensive moneywise. At least for me, because i would use him at best from time to time. Finally, his rules are just not that good. I heard of many many battles were canis fled the board really quickly due to his ld. especially when he joins a unit of fenris wolves, panic from shooting ruins his day. I also think his rules are a little bit too weak for his point cost, but that is just my personal judgement. If he had some kind of glaive/spear, a better name and ld9 i would probably like him. Whom ever puts canis wolfborn in a fenrisian wolfpack needs to be summery executed... Canis works better if you combine him with a wolflord on a thunderwolf and in a thunderwolf cavalry. Canis primary role is troop removal at the highest rate possible. A glass cannon so to speak due to having no invurnible save and only 2 wounds. You stick him with a wolf leader + 5 thunderwolf cavalry units and you got a very scary unit that nearly all enemy power weapon attacks will be directed towards the squad before the leaders. Thus it usually ensures canis doesn't get cut down by power weapons and he is able to preform his role. Also having that many models and if you deck them out right and or equip there basic weapons differently you can have upto 8 wound allocation slots against incoming shots! Canis is good model, but its one of those models that do require you to make sure he has a bit of help so he can preform his role. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2145426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron997 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Whom ever puts canis wolfborn in a fenrisian wolfpack needs to be summery executed... Canis works better if you combine him with a wolflord on a thunderwolf and in a thunderwolf cavalry. Canis primary role is troop removal at the highest rate possible. A glass cannon so to speak due to having no invurnible save and only 2 wounds. You stick him with a wolf leader + 5 thunderwolf cavalry units and you got a very scary unit that nearly all enemy power weapon attacks will be directed towards the squad before the leaders. Thus it usually ensures canis doesn't get cut down by power weapons and he is able to preform his role. Also having that many models and if you deck them out right and or equip there basic weapons differently you can have upto 8 wound allocation slots against incoming shots! Canis is good model, but its one of those models that do require you to make sure he has a bit of help so he can preform his role. Canis has 3 wounds. Hes decently tough if you consider that he will remove a nice chunk of enemy models himself, and with t5 he is immune to PFs and such. Wish he could get an invurn save but alas nothing we can do about that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2145434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I too objected to the name. Then I actually read his background story, and while Im suprised they went there... it makes sense now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2145441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burias-Drak'shal Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I like the idea behind the model, and the rider looks ok, but I really don't like the supposed wolf model. Its the head that's the problem, it looks more like a big cat. Its more thunder cat than thunder wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2145517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 I like the idea behind the model, and the rider looks ok, but I really don't like the supposed wolf model. Its the head that's the problem, it looks more like a big cat. Its more thunder cat than thunder wolf. See all the artwork in the new codex? Most of them dont look much like Terran Wolves. Wich makes sense... because they arent. Even if it is odd, from a mental point of veiw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2145526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burias-Drak'shal Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 See all the artwork in the new codex? Most of them dont look much like Terran Wolves. Which makes sense... because they arent. Even if it is odd, from a mental point of veiw. I have seen the art work, but even they look more wolfish, as do all the company icons throughout the book. Though could be one of those contradictions between editions of the game as it evolves. Everyone's going to have there own point of view on this, and it just doesn't do it for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2145537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claydon Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Well it makes sense that a wolf that is ridden by a space marine is quite, stocky. During winter wolves look quite heavy set, though most of that is their winter coat. During summer the same wolves look a lot leaner as they've lost that coat and a bit of weight. If your not happy with the model there is nothing stopping you converting or making your own from scratch, however. What I don't like is the chain reins leading from Fangfir's mouth. Considering the Fenrisian Wolves are meant to be extremely animal I would think there was no need for a piece of equipment to control them and their direction. I hope the Thunderwolf cavalry doesn't have the same reins. If they do, I'll probably attempt to remove them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2145541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 That is how Canis model looks like for real... http://www.grafika.cytadela.pl/articles/1065dd.jpg The fur of the wolf looks like chainmail sadly. Like green stuff covered wolf body, with is perforated by a pin:( And that pig tail... The worst wolf mode I'ce ever seen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181102-canis-wolfborn/#findComment-2145560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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