kiwitexansfan Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Being of a slightly radical inquisitorial persuasion, I am considering converting some Orks to serve as count as units in my army. The fluff to support this is that my Inq. Lord has seen the huge threats that face the Imperium, e.g. Tyranids, Necrons, Chaos and knows that a huge army is required to stop the advance of these threats. He sees Orks as a natural and inexhaustible supply of warriors to meet this threat. Now he is experimenting with various methods to make Orks obedient. This is neutral interference, pheromones, psychic inducement, hypnotism.... all sorts of possibilities exist. Now say he has had some success, he now takes a small sample with him to trial there response in combat situations. Here is where they come into the game.... A Nob counts as an acolyte (armed with a Terminators Stormbolter) A Boy with Big Shoota counts as Gun Servitor with Heavy Bolter 10 Ork Boys converted to carry Hellguns, counts as a squad of IST. The differences in stat lines, e.g improved BS, less Toughness, strength etc can all be accounted for as side effects for the way that they are being controlled. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Zaku Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Or you could go with the classic 'farm-grown' Cyb-Orks. In other words, he keeps a stretch of land on some discrete little planet as a spawning pit for his Orks, who, upon waking, are tranquilized, lobotomized, and weaponised into what amounts to one nasty little Servitork. Have them be synaptically linked to their sergeant 'Cy-Nobz'. Give them a reduction in their T, as they're not able to mature in the same way as other Orks (i.e., growing by punching the snot out of each other) but increase their L (to take into account the Inquisitor wanting to reduce their natural tendency to run away, as what good is a suicide shock-unit if it wants to flee all the Warp-damned time?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretic??ME?? Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Try using archo flagellants , cyborged orks oooooohhhh. Space marine scouts maybe?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDR Grendelwulf Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Being of a slightly radical inquisitorial persuasion, I am considering converting some Orks to serve as count as units in my army. An Inquisitor Ork army? I thought of doing something like this, although I was going to paint the Orks pink-skinned and make them bio-genetic creations of the Inquisitor or Adeptus Biologis for fighting. This project is scheduled right after my Inquisitor Tyranid army with control-shock-collars. @ heretic??ME?? : Nice sig. Thanks for the new desktop wallpaper... Ciao, CDR Grendelwulf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwitexansfan Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 Being of a slightly radical inquisitorial persuasion, I am considering converting some Orks to serve as count as units in my army. An Inquisitor Ork army? I thought of doing something like this, although I was going to paint the Orks pink-skinned and make them bio-genetic creations of the Inquisitor or Adeptus Biologis for fighting. This project is scheduled right after my Inquisitor Tyranid army with control-shock-collars. @ heretic??ME?? : Nice sig. Thanks for the new desktop wallpaper... Ciao, CDR Grendelwulf I like the genetic manipulation and different skin colour angle..... might steal that ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I like the idea, I've mean meaning to incorperate Eldar in my Inquisitorial army. A few years ago I read something that suggest Alien allies would be possible (Albeit in a very minor way) In Codex Alien Hunters when it was still part of the plan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Orks do sometimes work as mercenaries. Blood Axes would probably be the most likely to do merc work. I could see a radical purchasing the services of a few Ork bruisers (or even Kroot for that matter). Although Orks would probably work for wierd payment (guns, opportunities for violence, teeth). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyhawk Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I like the idea, I've mean meaning to incorperate Eldar in my Inquisitorial army. A few years ago I read something that suggest Alien allies would be possible (Albeit in a very minor way) In Codex Alien Hunters when it was still part of the plan. You might make the Inquisitor a member of the Cabal - a multi-race covert organisation bent on destroying Chaos. Eldar would fit in as it is more or less led by them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Heretic Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Heresy! I say. And utterly useless. Everyone knows that the ork is of abysmally poor stock, they lack both the resilience and strength of a welltrained imperial guardsman - not to speak of the intellect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwitexansfan Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 I like the idea, I've mean meaning to incorperate Eldar in my Inquisitorial army. A few years ago I read something that suggest Alien allies would be possible (Albeit in a very minor way) In Codex Alien Hunters when it was still part of the plan. You might make the Inquisitor a member of the Cabal - a multi-race covert organisation bent on destroying Chaos. Eldar would fit in as it is more or less led by them. Lets not worry to much about Chaos, there are older and more menacing enemies than those warp weenies.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwitexansfan Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 Heresy! I say. And utterly useless. Everyone knows that the ork is of abysmally poor stock, they lack both the resilience and strength of a welltrained imperial guardsman - not to speak of the intellect. Who cares when you can farm a billion of them, brainwashed to do whatever you want? Intellect only sows the seeds of disobedience? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2149644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I like the Cabal Idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2150795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDR Grendelwulf Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I like the genetic manipulation and different skin colour angle..... might steal that :lol: You are very welcome! I like the idea, I've mean meaning to incorperate Eldar in my Inquisitorial army. Would you count them as Adepta Sororitas with bolter-like weapons? Or a few as cult assassins? Eldar mercs (NOT Dark Eldar...hmm, then again, why not?) should looka little rougher than shiny Eldar. Imperialize them! Orks do sometimes work as mercenaries. Are Blood Axes the ones that act like 'humies'? Or, isn't it Snake Bites, or something? They would fit the fluff, especially fitting them in as IST, etc with Inquisitor codeci. You might make the Inquisitor a member of the Cabal Hmm, I might steal that idea. :) Heresy! I say. That is really surprising, coming from you. ;) Intellect only sows the seeds of disobedience? Such a lovely radical inquisitorical justification. I thing you are onto something... Ciao, CDR Grendelwulf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2150817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
- 7eAL - Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Intellect only sows the seeds of disobedience? Such a lovely radical inquisitorical justification. I thing you are onto something... "Blessed is the mind too small for doubt." Servitorks are the best corruption of Orks I have yet seen. Tyranids gutted and made into gribbly pets have been done more than once, Tau convert whatever they can coerce, blackmail, drug or brainwash into following them, Necrons harvest and process all living organisms into uniform shells, and Orks routinely steal from any other race, but I have never seen anybody steal Orks to serve another race. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2151357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Orlock Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 ... I have never seen anybody steal Orks to serve another race.'Cause not even the 'Nid hive mind can fully suppress the potent latent Orkiness encoded into the very fibre of their being by the ancients. Do you know why you practically never see Ork-'Stealer hybrids? 'Cause the Nids wouldn't waste their time on something they can't control. Orkhybrids used to be a choice for Ork armies. Ork armies could also use storm boyz of Khorn. Orkiness overrode the worship of the bloodgod. Orks create a resonate psychic field, that gets stronger as their numbers grow. Similarly, attempts to bribe Orks are foolish at best and disastrous at worst. At best, in our modern fluff era, they'll take your munitions, sac somewhere else, and return to extort more from you, at worst, they'll see you as weak and attack immediately. Gone are the days of being able to negotiate. Enslaved Orks in significant numbers are like female marines, but hey, they're your models. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2151934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripath Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 actually the answer is yes and no. Yes in that it is theoretically possible to have orks serve the imperium. and no in that you can't enslave them. As someone pointed out above it would also not be a good idea to bribe them. That leaves Confusion. Because if a group of orks starts seeing the Emperor as the biggest and strongest thing there is, then they would follow him. I have a friend that is working on an imperial guard army with this as its fluff. Also adding military fatigues to orks takes a decent amount of time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2152109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwitexansfan Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 ... I have never seen anybody steal Orks to serve another race.'Cause not even the 'Nid hive mind can fully suppress the potent latent Orkiness encoded into the very fibre of their being by the ancients. Do you know why you practically never see Ork-'Stealer hybrids? 'Cause the Nids wouldn't waste their time on something they can't control. Orkhybrids used to be a choice for Ork armies. Ork armies could also use storm boyz of Khorn. Orkiness overrode the worship of the bloodgod. Orks create a resonate psychic field, that gets stronger as their numbers grow. Similarly, attempts to bribe Orks are foolish at best and disastrous at worst. At best, in our modern fluff era, they'll take your munitions, sac somewhere else, and return to extort more from you, at worst, they'll see you as weak and attack immediately. Gone are the days of being able to negotiate. Enslaved Orks in significant numbers are like female marines, but hey, they're your models. :D I understand the whole innate psychic thing with Orks, I figure as long as you can gain control of one (the biggest) the rest will do whatever you want. And after all what your going to be doing is pointing them at the enemy and saying KILL, it's not that big of an issue. Their orkiness plays into what you want to achieve. I don't suggest using them against Orks, that would not end well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2152123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I wanted to go more along the Ranger lines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2152189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwitexansfan Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 I wanted to go more along the Ranger lines. An Eldar Acolyte would be nice, just to add flavour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2152234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Orlock Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 ... Enslaved Orks in significant numbers are like female marines, but hey, they're your models. :unsure:I understand the whole innate psychic thing with Orks, I figure as long as you can gain control of one (the biggest) the rest will do whatever you want. ... Orks getting larger is a manifestation of that particular orks orkiness, the same orkiness that makes them hard to control. 'Smuch as you would like to persuade me that this is a good idea, I'm a lost cause here. My mind is already made up, and it will be impractically difficult for you to change it That said, they are your models, and if it pleases you to do something I find unfitting, well, go for it. You should be modelling for your own enjoyment, and not the pleasure of others anyway, ridicule and scepticism be damned. Adding some Eldar Outcasts is a good idea though. In the days of your, in an earlier fluff era, they've mentioned odd things like Half-Eldar Marines. Genetic compatibility 'twixt humans and space elves seems to have gone the way of the squat though. Still, it reinforces the notion that Humans and Eldar are about as close a relationship as you might get between factions, aside from between different branches of the Imperium. Only squats were closer, actually serving under the Imperial banner. Tau might also make an appearance, maybe some kind of water-caste functionary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2152403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwitexansfan Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 'Smuch as you would like to persuade me that this is a good idea, I'm a lost cause here. My mind is already made up, and it will be impractically difficult for you to change it Each to their own..... It may have fluff plausability issues admittedly but it will be a nice little project to kill some time. They may only make a brief appearance in my army till I think of something equally radical (or a new more radical friendly codex comes out) but I think its an interesting flavour for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2152439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
- 7eAL - Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Tau might also make an appearance, maybe some kind of water-caste functionary. Water Caste functionary with fiddly technological scanners representing a Savant, Fire Caste bodyguard serving as a Warrior, and one shield drone representing an "Acolyte" with storm shield. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2152516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwitexansfan Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Tau might also make an appearance, maybe some kind of water-caste functionary. Water Caste functionary with fiddly technological scanners representing a Savant, Fire Caste bodyguard serving as a Warrior, and one shield drone representing an "Acolyte" with storm shield. I don't like the shield drone as Acolyte for fluff reasons, you can't exactly pass on the inquisitorial craft to a drone...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2152522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenCrute Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Who cares when you can farm a billion of them, brainwashed to do whatever you want? Might I point out that you can do this with Guardsmen too, and indeed, it is the standard method- also that I'm moderately disappointed that nobody picked this up yet ;). I'm not sure the orks'd work, but, hey, your hobby. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2152916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Guardsmen aren't really farmed. Vat grown people are mentioned alot in fluff but usually they're only used for servitors, host and experiments and thier accellorated lifes and the method of their creation would make them inferior to normal people for soldiering (In my opinion). IG Regiments are raised through numerous means but it would be unfair to say they were farmed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181552-the-domestication-of-orks/#findComment-2153061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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