Hfran Morkai Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Page 28 of the codex, in the Long Fang section. Russ' Last words. From what I'm reading it looks very interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 intresting isnt it we found his armour ,his helm ,his spear and his last words the question is who was he speaking to (clearly a space wolf)and if said chap reported the words who made the naughty choice to tell fibs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 intresting isnt it we found his armour ,his helm ,his spear and his last wordsthe question is who was he speaking to (clearly a space wolf)and if said chap reported the words who made the naughty choice to tell fibs We have his armour? I don't remember reading that. He better not be dead... I just had to make sure I wasn't seeing things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Wait a minute...I thought he jumped into the eye and was tear-butting in the eye? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Wait a minute...I thought he jumped into the eye and was tear-butting in the eye? Thats what I heard but he said he was dying. Perhaps the eye is keeping him alive. The codex says both of these things... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 After he disappeared into the Eye, no one knows what happened to him. Or did they retcon that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 His last words say that he is dying but he will be back when the chapter is dying, at the wolftime. So this was before he dissappeared. But he syas he can come back from the dead. Zombie Russ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 older fluff about his armour from the 2nd edd codex it was found during one of the great hunts in a chaos temple it may have been retconned or just omited to add mystery just a thought were did the tree of life thing come from Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Codex: Space Wolves, page 49 (under Bjorn the Fell-Handed) It was Leman Russ himself who gave Bjorn the epithet that he bears to this day. Then, one unforgettable and tragic day, the Primarch stepped atop the vast banqueting table in the Great Hall and, after a long and uncomfortable silence, announced his intention to leave for the Eye of Terror. He took his retinue with him, leaving only Bjorn behind to watch over his Chapter... ... From the day of Russ' disappearance... DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 His last words say that he is dying but he will be back when the chapter is dying, at the wolftime. So this was before he dissappeared. But he syas he can come back from the dead. Zombie Russ Those last words are awesome, evocative, stirring and old. I think I first read them in the 90s maybe. The fact that GW proliferates the Russ sojourn into the Eye of Terror and keeps printing those leads me to believe that those words were spoken in the Eye of Terror itself, and possibly retrieved in a memorandum or recording. I would also expect that no corpse was found and no sign that Russ was indeed correct about his imminent demise. Either way, he'll be back, unlooked for and unexpected and manner of his coming shall be splendid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron997 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Well if you look at Space Wolves fluff (particulary in the 13th company) the wulfen gene will often activate to prevent physical corruption. This is most likely what happened to Russ, thus explaining why we have his armour and weapons and such, he doesnt need them anymore cause hes probably in full wulfen state. (Full Wulfen Primarch...ouch) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 His last words say that he is dying but he will be back when the chapter is dying, at the wolftime. So this was before he dissappeared. But he syas he can come back from the dead. Zombie Russ Those last words are awesome, evocative, stirring and old. I think I first read them in the 90s maybe. The fact that GW proliferates the Russ sojourn into the Eye of Terror and keeps printing those leads me to believe that those words were spoken in the Eye of Terror itself, and possibly retrieved in a memorandum or recording. I would also expect that no corpse was found and no sign that Russ was indeed correct about his imminent demise. Either way, he'll be back, unlooked for and unexpected and manner of his coming shall be splendid. And Bjorn the Fell-handed is just crazy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoll Brandulf Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I sure hope he isn't dead. In my personal opinion, he went into the Eye of Terror to fight chaos Daemons naked, using inly his fists. That is how a true Wolf does it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uthred Ragnarson Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I thought he was looking for the tree of life as he believed that would revive the Emperor? :thanks: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgad Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 It's not very clear-cut, but while I was reading our new codex, I noticed something. On the bottom of page 88, there's a blurb describing how Russ fought the mythical wolf Morkai and his lieutenants. What I find interesting, pertaining to Russ's last words, is the following: The most terrible of all was Blackmane, a terrifying giant with midnight-black fur also known as the Howler of the Night, whose long keening calls the dead from their graves. Russ fought the Blackmane and slew him, making his pelt into a magic cloak that allowed him to pass beyond the gates of death. Of course, this text probably stems from old Fenrisian legends and folk-tales, but I do find it interesting that the text subtly suggests that Russ really does have the means to return to us at the Wolftime. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoll Brandulf Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 agreed. You make a good point, Thorgad. What his "Last Words" seem to say is that he is alive, but residing in the World of the Dead. Second Coming much? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 What page is this on? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Interesting if they did retcon the discoveries of Russ' armor from the fluff... The spear is little more than a gift from the Emperor, that Russ seemed to lose every so often according to Bulveye. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2151980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekLee688 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Page 28 of the newest Space Wolves' codex has "Russ's last words". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2152061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Page 28 of the codex, in the Long Fang section. Russ' Last words. From what I'm reading it looks very interesting. originally from 2nd edition codex, its not something new It's not very clear-cut, but while I was reading our new codex, I noticed something. On the bottom of page 88, there's a blurb describing how Russ fought the mythical wolf Morkai and his lieutenants. What I find interesting, pertaining to Russ's last words, is the following: The most terrible of all was Blackmane, a terrifying giant with midnight-black fur also known as the Howler of the Night, whose long keening calls the dead from their graves. Russ fought the Blackmane and slew him, making his pelt into a magic cloak that allowed him to pass beyond the gates of death. Of course, this text probably stems from old Fenrisian legends and folk-tales, but I do find it interesting that the text subtly suggests that Russ really does have the means to return to us at the Wolftime. again.. this was mentioned in the 2nd Edition Codex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2152102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Well thank you for informing me this was indeed from the second edition codex. Unfortunately I haven't been in the hobby long enough to have a copy of the 2nd ed codex but I'm working on acquiring it. It just confused me that this was the first reference (for me at least) to Russ "drawing his last breaths" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2152105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrathnar Flintfang Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Personally I think that the Full wulfen is probably the best bet, but we have no way of knowing regardless. Keep in mind they say Rowboat is healing in his little playskool golden throne and for all we know Khan has been beating back S&M enthusiests for the past 10,000 years or so. The fluff likes to keep that glimmer of 'they could be dead, but maybe not' around. Originally it was probably to encourage people to think of new things, now its just something to let us speculate over and ponder. Still.... Think about Russ as a chaos-resistant superclawed killing machine of death and killing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2152117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkseer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 We all know that GW can ever being the Primarchs back, because it would be the end of 40K. And if 1 Primarch returns, everyone will want their Primarch to return as well. Russ left with his wolfguard and travelled into the eye of terror. He could be commanding the 13th company for all we know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2152238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 He just hasn't spoken since - nothing left to say really and he is relying on hand signals in battle Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181790-russ-dead/#findComment-2152253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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