WolfLordLars Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Posted in the painting forum, but figured I might get a bite here too... Just picked up an airbrush setup and am wanting to use it to basecoat my Wolves... using Space Wolf Grey. So, as I see it, my options are: 1 - Water down Citadel/Vallejo paint enough to use in the airbrush 2 - Mix my own The problem with 1 as I understand it is that both Citadel/Vallejo dont water down well to the consistency needed for an airbrush. Someone even told me that the pigment is so thick that clogging is an issue, though thats mainly with Citadel. The Vallejo airbrush ready line doesnt have a Space Wolf grey, and so far I have been unable to find any other line of airbrush paints (or other paints which work well thinned down) that makes anything close. Help? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtee Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Posted in the painting forum, but figured I might get a bite here too... Just picked up an airbrush setup and am wanting to use it to basecoat my Wolves... using Space Wolf Grey. So, as I see it, my options are: 1 - Water down Citadel/Vallejo paint enough to use in the airbrush 2 - Mix my own The problem with 1 as I understand it is that both Citadel/Vallejo dont water down well to the consistency needed for an airbrush. Someone even told me that the pigment is so thick that clogging is an issue, though thats mainly with Citadel. The Vallejo airbrush ready line doesnt have a Space Wolf grey, and so far I have been unable to find any other line of airbrush paints (or other paints which work well thinned down) that makes anything close. Help? 40% paint - 60% water = citadel friendly airbrush paints. Watch out for graveyard earth or what ever. The browns will clog like all hell. Space Wolf Grey works fine with airbrush though, Also taimya Color x-20A thinner works GREAT. I do 50% water, 50%paint, then add that thinner as needed and it works great with my iwata .02mm Nozzle Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Testor's Model Master line is very airbrush easy. You will find several colors that will serve you very well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 That was my point... how to get the SW grey out of the Model Master (or any other) line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReyRex Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Vallejo Model Color Paint thinner works good for thinning the paint down. I have also used a small amount of alcohol, to thin the mix. RR Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Should I be priming the models before the base coat? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolishzero Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I also have have no problem using a spray gun and the Citadel paints. Just have to mix correctly. And yes you will want to prime the model first. If you don't there is a larger chance that the paint will chip. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsekov Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 There seems to be a bit of confusion from other posters as to whether you are talking about an airbrush or a GW spray gun. These are two completely different items. I recently started using an airbrush and was told that clogging is an issue with GW paints as it doesn't work well with thinner. I gave it a shot anyway and boy do I regret that mistake. It took me 10 minutes to clean the thing after and even now (2 months later) there is still a lot of paint in there that I just cant remove. As for a spray gun I wouldn't know though. I primarily use Tamiya paints for my airbrush but haven't really found an equivalent (though I have only tried 2 possibilities) yet. Some of the other posters should be able to help you there. But my recommendation is to NOT use GW or vallejo paint in your airbrush. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Yea, airbrush.. as in, a Passe/Iwata airbrush and air compressor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Use the following URL and pick a palette from the vallejo air range or another: http://colors.silicon-dragons.com/full_line.php You should be able to get an idea of what you want and order a couple of pots to test and mix up some batches of what you like. And yes, prime first. Marek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekgar_Wolf Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Posted in the painting forum, but figured I might get a bite here too... Just picked up an airbrush setup and am wanting to use it to basecoat my Wolves... using Space Wolf Grey. So, as I see it, my options are: 1 - Water down Citadel/Vallejo paint enough to use in the airbrush 2 - Mix my own The problem with 1 as I understand it is that both Citadel/Vallejo dont water down well to the consistency needed for an airbrush. Someone even told me that the pigment is so thick that clogging is an issue, though thats mainly with Citadel. The Vallejo airbrush ready line doesnt have a Space Wolf grey, and so far I have been unable to find any other line of airbrush paints (or other paints which work well thinned down) that makes anything close. Help? Believe me: use 50% Tamiya X-20A Thinner 50% Citadel paint (not Foundation). It works really fine, no problem at all with an 0.3 airbrush (dont forget to clean the airbrush by using alcohol and airbrush cleaner after each use/different mix). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I use a 5:1 mix of paint to water for my airbrush compressor unit and it seems to work fine whilst giving the colour I want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2152852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtee Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I use a 5:1 mix of paint to water for my airbrush compressor unit and it seems to work fine whilst giving the colour I want. I have an IWATA HP-BH. If my airbrush can do fine with Citadel paints, anyones can, and I just airbrushed for the first time 3 weeks ago, and I have yet to "clog" JUst have to mix correctly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2153002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucku Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Vallejo has an air-brush friendly line, though I don't know about whether they have an analog of SW Grey. I use a Dark French Grey from Testors myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2153044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar8481 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 admitted that I have a pretty high quality airbrush, but I've not had any problem with using fresh pots of citadel paint thinned just a little with testors acrylic thinner. older pots where the medium hs evaporated need more thinner. You can also use an arylic medium to refresh your paints if need be. I've not tried metallics or foundation paints, particularly I know foundation paints, because they have a different medium, will gel if they're exposed to acrylic thinner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2153200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucku Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I thin acrylics with distilled water. Cheap and works like a charm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2153395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 Well, at this point all I can do is get a few models, my airbrush, and try it out. I will post some pictures later on with what I came up with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/181859-sw-grey-for-airbrush/#findComment-2153396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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