Do You Guys Use Land Raiders?

[Prototype]

I was looking into purchasing a Land Raider for my Space Wolves army, but to be honest its a fairly expensive model, and its something I'm not sure I'll use.

 

Do you guys use Land Raiders? If so, in what size army, and what variant? Any advice or experiences you could share regarding them?

Thanks!

[stinkenheim]

i have started taking one in recent games. i play 2,500 or 3kpts (and i only take it in the bigger games). i take it as a transport for a wolf guard pack (so i still keep a heavy choice) and because i play city fight alot i take the redeemer, it also has a higher transport capacity.

its a big investment, bothmoney and points, and if you aren't sure if you will take one then chances are you can spend your money better elsewhere.

who do you play? i play orks and nids alot, so it will last until they get into combat so its a fairly safe bet and while not normally making its points back will not usually fail to do something... unless a lucky spore mine drops on top of it (this happened last week against my friend, i landed a spore mine on his raider, rolled double 6 for armour pen and then a 6 to destroy it- 36 pt spore cluster kills 250pt tank, lol).

if you play tau, guard or shooty marines it will take a lot of fire but probably not last more than 2-3 turns. if thats the case maybe a vindicator would be better. still packs a punch but easier to hide from incoming fire and less of a points sink.

[Chucku]

I use one quite often once the point value goes over 1500. I love the assault ramp!

[clanfield]

1500 pts i use a standard godhammer planning on getting a redemer now its in the codex

[El Scotcho]

Land Raider Crusaders for the win!! 2 of my Heavy Support slots will be taken by Land Raider Crusaders, filled to the brim with Blood Claws led by Wolf Priests.

[MaveriK]

Do you guys use Land Raiders?

 

Aye we use Land Raiders, just as much as most of us the search function :)

[Vassakov]

Yes, 3 of them. One pure, old school Crusader, one LRC/LRR with magnets and one LR Prometheous (FW vehicle, 4x TLHB and a Command and Control Centre.)

 

Also considering a Helios - this has a Whirlwind Multiple Missile Turret instead of the Heavy Bolters. Bit pricey though...

[Ragnar Blood Giver]

it dependant on the game value and deployment etc...

 

my brother took me apart with a L/R with 1 HQ with a ven squad and masses of assualt squads, with only a Ven dred and a razorback.

 

'don't matter what you have it's how you use it'

[Grey Mage]

I was looking into purchasing a Land Raider for my Space Wolves army, but to be honest its a fairly expensive model, and its something I'm not sure I'll use.

 

Do you guys use Land Raiders? If so, in what size army, and what variant? Any advice or experiences you could share regarding them?

Thanks!

Frankly these days I think that in many cases the Standard Landraider *phobos* has both gained ground and lost effectiveness... putting it once again on par with the crusader.

 

The Landraider Phobos has alot of tank killing power and is tactically flexable- you decide where it is, what range its at and when you strike. However that AT firepower isnt quite as needed as before because of the dropping price of Predators and huge discount on Long Fangs these days.

 

The Landraider Crusader is simply not as flexable because its chained to a 24" range, but its large transport capacity means your internal squad can be almost anything youd like it to be, save for 9+TDA models. But its an agressive model... and because of that alot of SW players will swear by it.

 

The Landraider Redeemer is not one that I would use personally, as I find that a 9" range is just to limiting on a vehicle. You have to be right in meltarange in order to get it off... but I know some of the Wolves around here will tell you that its the best because of the might of an AP 3 template.

 

Phobos usually has a good scoring unit in their with decent HtH capabilities, while the Crusader tends to go for all out assault squads... its the byword in Bloodclaw devlivery, but that unit costs around 500pts, and now is much diminished for the two missing CCWs. The Redeemer has to be used similarly to the Crusader, but has a smaller transport capacity- wich means that its good for a GH Squad with a character.... particularly one like say, Ragnar, and a WGPL.

 

But yes, we use Landraiders. Its just that LandRaider spam, for most of us, isnt as apealing as it would be to a codex player- we have other options that are atleast as good.

 

But if your going to purchase one I would heartily recommend Crusaders.

[Ragnar Blood Giver]

the LR was and still is a good fire attraction platform, and troop capacity was a benefit, but again dependant on the game you are playing and the scerenary it could be a winner and/or a loser.

 

just look at the ven dred and its cost vs benefits, depends on the game and scenery...

 

out LF seem to have greatly improved to the LR.

[WG Vrox]

Definitally worth having one around. the all around 14AV is just pure fun at times, even a Las Cannon is glancing on a 5. Add in the fact it is one of two vehicals that we can use to transport TDA models and the 20' assult range and you have a solid Heavy choice. If you plan to put troops in it, I suggest the MM is well worth the points for the cost.

 

What to watch out for. Melta Weapons, 8+ 2d6 is almost an assured penetration and that fact they get a +1 to the chart is a sure way to loose 250 points.

 

Eldar's bright lance and dark lance weapons, treat 14 as if its 12.

 

Don't worry to much about power fists but chain fists are something to avoid.

 

Always find out in advance what models have Melta Bombs and avoid those.

 

Scout Bikers are always geared to take out the LR, when you see your oppenent with these, make sure you setup a unit of your own to interecept.

 

 

Vrox

[muzzyman1981]

I have a Land Raider Crusader/Redeemer that I use (althought haven't used the Redeemer pattern yet) to carry around my pack of 15 Blood Claws with leader. It is awesome. Yes the model itself is expensive both money-wise and point-wise but I believe it to be worth it. I don't use the Lascannon version because I believe that a Las-Predator is a better choice for the weaponry. The Crusader I love cause the weaponry setup is awesome for my play-style, plus it allows me the room to transport almost my whole army lol. I also try to give it a Multi-melta as much as I possibly can to help give a bit more AT weaponry on the field.

[Prototype]

Do you guys use Land Raiders?

 

Aye we use Land Raiders, just as much as most of us the search function :)

Actually if you did use the search function regarding Land Raiders you'd see only 2-3 topics since the new codex, and none of them regarding what I'm asking....I'm assuming times have changed a lot since the previous (very outdated) codex. I checked before posting :)

 

Looks like its a toss up between the Crusader and Redeemer.....opinions?

 

Thanks

[muzzyman1981]

Depends on your main opponent armies AND how many people you plan on trying to stuff in the tank.

 

You play lots of IG, Orks, 'Nids then a Redeemer is probibly a good bet although the Crusader can do some serious damage as well so many it comes down to how many slots you think you will need and the range from which you want to start using weapons.

[Grey Mage]

Actually if you did use the search function regarding Land Raiders you'd see only 2-3 topics since the new codex, and none of them regarding what I'm asking....I'm assuming times have changed a lot since the previous (very outdated) codex. I checked before posting :pinch:

 

Looks like its a toss up between the Crusader and Redeemer.....opinions?

 

Thanks

IMO the Crusader is better all around- its more flexable and its got a higher transport capacity.

[the jeske]

hmm I must say I didnt understand the question to begin with . But yes SW do have a LR rush build and yes it is viable . I dont think that using one in any sized games is a good idea . alway 2 up to 2250 when one can start to think about the third [but then again anything above 2k pts is not really tactics]. thanks to the machine spirit all versions of LR are good[well maybe not the redeemer too short ranged] , unlike the LR of BAs or Chaos who are just 250 pts transports.

[Hfran Morkai]

Ahem.

 

Official Land Raider Fan Club member here! I myself currently have one crusader, two phobos and a helios variant, looking to add two more crusaders to my armoured company in the future.

 

With regards to using them, I use a single phobos at 1500 points with some grey hunters and my lord. Then I take another phobos pattern at 2000 with a small wolf guard unit for my lord.

[WolfLordLars]

Usually not in anything smaller than 2000.

 

The Crusader is a good bet. You will probably get more use from than than the 'standard' LR. No comment good or bad for the redeemer yet, have not played it or seen it played so far.

[Audun]

I would like to use Land Raiders (darn absence of monies) A crusader for my 15 blood Claws and Wolf Priest (Ulrik model, but he's not as flexible so he'll only be Ulrik in games when i know there are >T4 enemies) and a Redeemer for Wolf Guard and Logan. I'm sure you can imagine what my "tactic" is.