Hfran Morkai Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Once again I've been looking through my Great Company plan and I've managed to avoid wargear combinations being the same, my question is about sagas. Do you think it would be a major compromise of fluff to include more than one of a given saga in a list (that runs at about 10,000 points)? Because I really want four guys with Saga of the Warrior Born but would rather have something fluff than super awesome. Opinions? Should I be shot down for not sticking to fluff or is the sheer size of the force acceptable for repeated sagas? If four of the same is too much I'm prepared to drop it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tiger Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I say stick to fluff, plus 4 of the same is rather bland and boring Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 I say stick to fluff, plus 4 of the same is rather bland and boring I agree with that part but some of the sagas seem pointless to the units involved. I suppose I could heaven forbid take a character without a saga... but that sounds like heresy! I'll change them round a bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Cuneglas Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Sheer size of the force makes it more than acceptable. In a battle that size there would be some bad mambajambas there and warrior borns are at the top. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Sheer size of the force makes it more than acceptable. In a battle that size there would be some bad mambajambas there and warrior borns are at the top. Well I think I'll limit it to two because currently one character is lacking a saga now. Just need to add some wolves to the force to make use of wolfkin. More points! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthrex354 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 you could say that you have four units with a shared destiny or four brothers and that this is why they have the same saga, you could even make a data sheet for an apocolypse formation of multiple similar marines 4 is good that boost each other when they are together Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Thanks for the input guys. I've decided to leave it at a maximum of two per saga and ideally just one to make it more fitting, then again I do want two TDA characters to lead my two TDA packs... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Devil Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Apocalpyse is about BIG STUPID FUN. If you want to take 7 Logan Grimnars go for it. If you want to stick to the fluff, then do so. My group has really embraced Apocalypse, in one of the earlier games we had two Logan Grimnars on the field. We both decided that which ever one survived longer would be the real one. Sadly mine got blown up and his survived the game. Last Saturday we both faced 11,000 pts of Dark Angels with a Thunderhawk & Baneblade. We decided before the game that we would only have one of each Special Characters. It can be fun either way, don't let fluff dictate your fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 Apocalpyse is about BIG STUPID FUN. If you want to take 7 Logan Grimnars go for it. If you want to stick to the fluff, then do so. My group has really embraced Apocalypse, in one of the earlier games we had two Logan Grimnars on the field. We both decided that which ever one survived longer would be the real one. Sadly mine got blown up and his survived the game. Last Saturday we both faced 11,000 pts of Dark Angels with a Thunderhawk & Baneblade. We decided before the game that we would only have one of each Special Characters. It can be fun either way, don't let fluff dictate your fun. Ah but for me the Fluff is a major part of the fun, the games are good and all but if I can't imagine my arrayed company about to bash skulls in and the personalities of my characters then I don't see the point. I was curious as to whether it would be reasonable from a fluff sense that two characters excelled in the same aspect in a gathering of over 170 warriors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublindawg Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I was curious as to whether it would be reasonable from a fluff sense that two characters excelled in the same aspect in a gathering of over 170 warriors. At 170 warriors you are fielding one fully company of wolves by some estimates. I am only at about 60 wolf brothers at this time :cry: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 I was curious as to whether it would be reasonable from a fluff sense that two characters excelled in the same aspect in a gathering of over 170 warriors. At 170 warriors you are fielding one fully company of wolves by some estimates. I am only at about 60 wolf brothers at this time :cry: I'm not quite at 170 yet but my current planned company is at 172 standard models, not including HQ choices. Plus I need to add some Land Speeders to that, and possibly some more Swiftclaws hehe. I was planning on getting close to Ragnar's company in size, especially with those new Terminators. A lot of it is unpainted though so I need to get to work on it. I think it could work, especially as one with the same power is a Wolf Priest who is simply attached to a Great Company as opposed to being part of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Id probly be alright with it if I was playing against you- but if it were me I wouldnt start using sagas again until Id used all the others up, save for perhaps Iron Warrior, as Im unlikely to field more than one Iron Priest *as thats all I own*. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon950 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Sorry to rain on you parade, but unless you have a special character then you can't take multiple sagas, even in apocalypse. Sagas can't be taken again because it doesn't fall under the 0-1 limit, it just says that sagas cant be taken again. Us veteran Wolves got along without them before and given the limit we can keep going on without them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter117a Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Sorry to rain on you parade, but unless you have a special character then you can't take multiple sagas, even in apocalypse. Sagas can't be taken again because it doesn't fall under the 0-1 limit, it just says that sagas cant be taken again. Unless your opponents allow you. :tu: As someone said above, Apocalypse is all about having fun. If taking 200 of the same Sagas floats your boat, then by all means do it. Personally, I'll stick with the 0-1 Saga limit. There's just something about having that one guy who can crash through entire units or carve up huge creatures by himself that really appeals to me. After all, that's the the Wolves are all about. ;) In game terms, if you're worried about the survivability of a character with Sage of Warrior Born (who will definitely get shot at by multiple units in an Apocalypse sized game), then kit him out to survive! Give him a Thunderwolf mount, runic armor, a frost blade, and a storm shield. Then build up a couple squads of Thunderwolf cavalry and have him hang with them. You could even throw in a Wolf Guard Leader with Saga of the Beast-killer (or whatever it's called), kit him out the same (except maybe give him a thunder hammer instead of a frost blade), and have him ride along with the first guy, looking for any nasty creatures to destroy. Saga of the Warrior Born+Saga of the Beast-killer+Thunderwolf cavalry = absolute domination against almost any kind of infantry/assault troops/monstrous creature/independent character you can think of. And in a 10,000 point battle, the points required won't even make a dent. Happy hunting, fellow Fenrisians! - Winter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Sorry to rain on you parade, but unless you have a special character then you can't take multiple sagas, even in apocalypse. Sagas can't be taken again because it doesn't fall under the 0-1 limit, it just says that sagas cant be taken again. Us veteran Wolves got along without them before and given the limit we can keep going on without them. Show me the rule. Show me where it says this in apocalypse. Because by all thats holy if the blasted Chaos Players can take 12 Abbaddons and hide each of them in a plague marine squad then I see no reason why a wolf player couldnt take the same saga more than once. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 Sorry to rain on you parade, but unless you have a special character then you can't take multiple sagas, even in apocalypse. Sagas can't be taken again because it doesn't fall under the 0-1 limit, it just says that sagas cant be taken again. Us veteran Wolves got along without them before and given the limit we can keep going on without them. Well they say in the Apocalypse book that pretty much the only restriction is squad size. I mean taking two of a saga in a 10000 point game is hardly game breaking. And Veteran Wolves? How long have you been with us may I ask? I'm simply curious because I've been with the Wolves since 2003 and run without sagas but the way they've toned down our Wolf Priest means that saga of the Warrior born can be very helpful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2157884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon950 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 You cant take more than one special character, it says it in the apocalypse book. I've been playing Space Wolves for 4 years now, just haven't been a member of the BaC for all that long. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2158745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 You cant take more than one special character, it says it in the apocalypse book. I've been playing Space Wolves for 4 years now, just haven't been a member of the BaC for all that long. Fair enough. I was merely curious. I'll drop one saga to keep everyone happy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2158748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 You cant take more than one special character, it says it in the apocalypse book. I've been playing Space Wolves for 4 years now, just haven't been a member of the BaC for all that long. Got a page number for that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182317-a-question-regarding-the-wolves-and-apocalypse/#findComment-2158812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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