Brother Captain Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I'm painting this mini for fun and to test some new techniques. I did some blending on the scrolls and had my first go at OSL around the eyes. At the moment it is almost ready except for the power sword which will probably be painted with a glowing green effect. Comments, criticisms and ideas are more than welcome. Pics here: http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0001-4.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0003-5.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0005-3.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0006-1.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0008.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0009.jpg Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper297 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 That's looking pretty good. My only suggestion would be to add some writing of sorts to those purity seals and possibly make the symbols on the shoulders stand out a little more. Look a little odd, or maybe it's just me. Oh and maybe add something to the shield. Other than that though it looks great. The color of the armor is great and the highlights really make it stand out in certain spots. The eyes really stand out from the rest of the model though. Overall I'm loving it. Good job :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 That's looking pretty good. My only suggestion would be to add some writing of sorts to those purity seals and possibly make the symbols on the shoulders stand out a little more. Look a little odd, or maybe it's just me. Oh and maybe add something to the shield. My mistake. I am gona do all of these things but I usually do them after I finish the painting the rest of the model. I'll probably cheat and use a transfer for the shield heraldry though. B) Glad you liked it. I have had great fun painting this mini so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver3x Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Looks very very nice. Good blending and the OSL around the eyes is not overdone. Great mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapturowski Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Looks really nice. I like the metallics a lot. Perhaps a small wash of brown or blue to the shadowed areas could make it pop a bit more? Very crisp painting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 Thanks for your coments guys! :o It's been great fun so far though I'm a bit worried about the power sword as it's the first time I'm gona try a glowing effect. If you have any good tutorials then links wouldbe more than welcome. @ kapturowski: I will consider doing an extra wash on the shadowed areas. Actually shadowed areas have already received a brown wash. Anyway I usually make such alterations after I have finished painting the model so I can see how it ties together so I'll leave it as it is for the moment. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verpine Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 What color did you drybrush the silver with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 What color did you drybrush the silver with? I made a mini tutorial for this miniature on Warseer so I think I should copy it here. If you need any further info though don't hessitate to ask. :devil: The armour is pretty straightforward: - Drybrush Tin Bitz - Drybrush Boltgun Metal - Drybrush Chainmail - Drybrush Mithril Silver - A HEAVY wash with Asurmen Blue Wash - Wash deep recesses with Devlan Mud Wash - Drybrush Mithril Silver The bronze is: - Basecoat Schorched Brown : Dwarf Bronze 1:1 - Paint everything except deep recesses Dwarf Bronze - Highlight with Shining Gold - Highlight with Burnished Gold - Highlight with Burnished Gold:Mithril Silver 1:1 - A HEAVY wash with Devlan Mud Wash - Highlight with Burnished Gold:Mithril Silver 1:1 I've found out that the new washes work better when used undiluted and in a heavy coat (hence the EMPHASIS :evil:). While the wash is wet you can tease it out of the high points and into the recesses but I find that this is necesary only where there are large flat surfaces. The scrolls are pretty straightforward as far as colour choice is concerned but keep in mind that I tried some blending on them so it can take some time to paint them this way. You can layer the highlights instead of blending them and the result will be quite good too. Here's the recipe: - Basecoat Calthan Brown - Paint everything except deep recesses Talarn flesh - Highlight with Bleached bone, blending the highlights into Talarn Flesh. It will take 2 -3 layers of blended highlights. - Highlight with Skull White towards the edges and highest points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I don't think I've seen your work on the board yet, but it looks awesome. Reiterating from the above statements, those metallics are fantastic! But what I really like, is the smooth red of his shield. It's blended very well, but it's lacking in the detail department. Any ideas on his personal heraldry (that is if you're adding anything to it)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtakuGundam Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Great work on the eyes, it makes him look more menacing. As a fellow grey knights player, i want to give you the link to theGrey Knights Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Loring Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 This is a very 'simple' but extremely beautiful model. I don't think I could say that I don't like any part of it. Personally wouldn't have chosen green eyes, but even those are painted awesomely! I love your method for painting the bronze/gold and the parchment - never thought about using tallarn flesh, but the result is fantastic! More models please! p.s. when I say 'simple' I only mean no modification. I'm sure the paint job took an age and is certainly not simple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 @Darth Potato: I've been on and off on the forums but lately I was mostly absent. Moving back to my country after studying abroad, doing a 2000km motorcycle trip and setting up a new appartment forced me into a painting hiatus which lasted around 3 months. Now I'm back! :teehee: The red is actually very straightforward. The recipe is: - Basecoat Scab Red - Highlight with Red Gore - Highlight with Blood Red - A heavy wash of Devlan mud - Highlight with Blood Red I'll add heraldry to the shield, using a transfer, after I finish the rest of the model. That would make the shield look less empty or at least I hope it will. @TheOtakuGundam: Thanks for the link. I'll surely take a look at that forum. The only downside of a pure GK forum is that there are no chaos players to purge for being heretics and Warp worshippers. :P @Brother Loring: To give credit where credit is due, I got the idea of using Talarn Flesh for painting parchment from a GW tutorial. And the paintjob has been relatively quick (at least quick by my standards). Around 10 - 12 hours so far. <_< Hopefully I'll paint some more tommorow. Today was a very bussy day and I have just enough strength to pick up my coffe mug and type excuses for my lack of progress on the mini I should be painting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiodome Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 green almost never looks good for power weapons, don't think it'd suit your scheme either. (imo [ofc]) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 Yes, it's officially finished. I may do some minor touch-ups before varnishing but that's all. Of course I'd like to hear your comments and any ideas you might have. :D http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0001-5.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0002-3.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0003-6.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0004-3.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0005-4.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0006-2.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0008-1.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0010-1.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0011-1.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0012.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i243/Brother_Captain/Daemonhunters/IMG_0013.jpg @ Shiodome: I couldn't resist painting it green as I use green in prety much everything that is glowing or reflective (gems, eye lenses etc.). I would like your oppinion on how it turned out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks333 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 the drybrush technique is a texture technique, and you should keep it for that...if you want smooth metal you need to drop the drybrushing for normal painting, and use washes to shade metals like any other colour(except with twice the light/dark contrast) you can hold your mini under the light to figure out where light hits and so on the red could use more contrast, right now its very flat...instead of using multiple shades of red to brighten/darken, use other colours, something more like yellows to lighten/brighten or blues/purples, browns, greens, or a mix thereof, to darken...same goes for other colours brass needs more contrast, brighter highlight, an darker shadows to make it seem more metallic the green glow needs white with a small small small touch of the green, so basically almost pure white, in order to create the idea of glow, and for swords the way it usually works is opposites, where one side of the blade is bright the opposite side is dark...dark next to light is how contrast and reflection or glow is created... ignoring the awful photos, heres an example of the opposite thing: http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics13/i...3b18bf445ea.jpg as for the base, i suggest using multiple sizes of sands and stones in the future, it looks like hes walking on a gravel mound and its very flat and even...too much open space with no shape, also use black or dark coloured rims on the bases, otherwise you steal attention away from the mini because your eye is drawn towards light your work is by no means bad, simply take this as an idea of how to keep moving forward :D keep it up! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Loring Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I think he looks awesome, but I am by no means a great painter so I would go with the above advice, especially after seeing some of Starks' work! Congratulations, I'd like to see the finished unit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 @ Starks333: First of all thanks for the detailed feedback. I rarely get detailed feedback and I appreciate the effort. :D I like your method of painting glowing swords. It seems like you are applying similar principles as in NMM painting. To be honest I'm not sure if I could pull it off correctly. I may try it when I get more confident about my ability to blend. The drybrush, I used it as an experiment and strangely I like the rough finish it produces. I usually paint my metalics as you suggest; I just wanted to try something new. As for the red, I have tried using browns to shade yellow and I guess it would work well with reds too. I recently saw a thread about a guy using orange to highlight red and then glazing the whole area with red wash to brong back the red-ness. That seems interesting as well. I'm not so sure about the brass though. I never paint brass the same way. Sometimes I push the highlights further, other times I add green glazes for ageing and in general I like to experiment. In this mini I thought I shouldn't highlight it anymore. The base is well.... plain. I assembled (and based) this mini about 4- 5 years ago when my basing skills were not very impressive. I may try adding fallen leaves and snow to breack up the monotony of the grey base but that's all I can do (unless you have any suggestions of course). I think I'll leave the base rim as it is though. Scorched Brown base rims have become my... trademark and I quite like it. ;) The good thing is that now I'm not doing much army painting and I'm painting minis just for fun and to improve my skills. So I guess I should keep painting and experimenting. At least I'm seing some improvement as time passes. :D @ Brother Loring: Thanks for your kind words. I do believe however that there is always room for improvement. Otherwise painting wouldn't be a challenge and it would become dull. I'm not so sure I'll ever finish a unit of terminators though. I have 6 more terminators sitting in a shelf undercoated but as I said before I'm done with army painting. However there is a plan to finish my Daemonhunters army as a pure display army... sometime in the distant future so you never know. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks333 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 dont be afraid of highlighting , too many people are and they end up lacking depth in their work...the key is using other colours and rarely is it similiar tones to darken or brighten, its usually drastically different tones experienting is completely cool no worries there, just keep er up and dont be afraid to try things that seem daunting, afterall you wont learn to do them if you never do them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 dont be afraid of highlighting , too many people are and they end up lacking depth in their work... Fear of highlighting has been one of my biggest stumbling blocks as far as painting is concerned. I'm starting to overcome it though. Being in an "experimentation" phase lately helps a lot. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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