Legatus Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Daemon Hammers use the old 4th Edition rules, so they do not make the target strike at I 1, they make it strike "at the end of the next round". You can keep stunning the target and make it strike next turn, only you will again be hitting before it, making it strike the next turn after that, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Daemon Hammers use the old 4th Edition rules, so they do not make the target strike at I 1, they make it strike "at the end of the next round". You can keep stunning the target and make it strike next turn, only you will again be hitting before it, making it strike the next turn after that, and so on. Also being a DH they might not be striking at I1 which is always a bonus :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 "Until" means "at the time of" in a basic way, but I can understand missing that subtlety. Hows the italian copy read? I'm sorry I have the english codex and so I don't know how is it written in italian :) DH Codex states and I quote: "A thunder hammer counts as a power fist, but any model wounded by it and not killed may not attack untill the end of the next assault phase." Thus it is quite clear that yes you can perform perma-stun on something Hit it once so it strikes at the end of the assault phase (i.e after I1 strikes) and then keep wounding it so it can never strike back (wounded before it strikes means no attacks this turn) Except all I one strikes happen at the same time- so it swung when your TH did. end of assault phase means after everything else including I1 unless you're interpreting that the end of the phase means i1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 badie attacks: You attacK: badie may not attack until the end of the next assault phase (after I1) Next assault phase... You attack: baddie may not attack until end of next assault phase... which is not this one but the next... Badie: :).... waiting even longer and sooo on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I would interprate until to be simultainous. You might be able to argue a I0 (or I 0.5 if you prefer), But argueing they dont atack at all seams wrong Oh the quote for the rules are "May not attack again untill initive 1 blows are struck in the next assult phase" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_WarM Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 It is my understanding that "until" means after in this case. I have always played like this with my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 It is my understanding that "until" means after in this case. I have always played like this with my friends. And that is your right to interprit it thusely. But untill mean generaly means <= as oposed to just <. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 It is my understanding that "until" means after in this case. I have always played like this with my friends. And that is your right to interprit it thusely. But untill mean generaly means <= as oposed to just <. ^This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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