Rune Priest Ridcully Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Hi, I was wondering would I be able to model a katana on a Thousand sons pre herasy captain, or would a scimmitar (like the elven blades from Lord of the Rings) be more appopiate, either way, does anyone have a good idea on how to model it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skritz Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Tomb King weaponry make nice Kopesh (egyptian weapons). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2161269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathTyrant Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Egyptian stuff would indeed look awesome on them. Check out this Scibor miniature Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2161320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share Posted October 24, 2009 Wow, where is that model from?, I was thinking of using Sicirus as a base for the conversion, but that is tempting just for the helmet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2161863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 scimitar would be more appropriate I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2161943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 A Khopesh would be the most appropriate melee weapon for an Egyptian-themed model. And that mini looks nice! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2162115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skritz Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 A Khopesh would be the most appropriate melee weapon for an Egyptian-themed model. And that mini looks nice! Â Definately a Kopesh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2162158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Khopesh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2162202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathTyrant Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Wow, where is that model from?, I was thinking of using Sicirus as a base for the conversion, but that is tempting just for the helmet. Look up Scibor minis, he does commissions builds, but of course cannot sell stuff as GW units, just as 'Egyptian Warriors' etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2162739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldenhaller Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Kopesh is definately the way forward. The Ushabti have some of an appropriate marine like stature if you were looking for GW ones  ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2166774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 In Battle for the Abyss, I'm sure the Thousand Son is mentioned as having a power weapon in the form of a scimitar! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2167161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 I think a Ushabti would be a bit big, and whilst the Khopesh idea is good, I have already used it in my normal Thousand sons army and I feel that Khopesh's may be slightly over used, and as a result am thinking of modelling a Katana, something about them strikes me as thousand son like for some reason and so I am wondering, does anyone have any idea how icould model one, either what model/components or any good scratch build ideas for making Katanas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2180252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frijj Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 In battle for the abyss HH book the thousand son had a scimitar that changed into a spear. So if you don't want a silly looking blade like the Khopesh then go for your origional thought. To be honest there was very little stylising in the pre-heresy armies. Take for instance the Emperors children. They used claymores, rapiers, bastard swords and thunder hammers. so if you can make it fit, then go for it. And do remember that the armour was very very plane. Just take a look at the HH books cover art. legion icons tended to be painted on as they got the suits in big shipments from mars. And mars wasn't going to customise them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2180554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thousand Sons would disagree with you: Â http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/7/73/Preheresy-TS.JPG http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/052/4/4/Ban_Thousand_sons_pre_heresy_by_Bastou.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2180636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I feel that Khopesh's may be slightly over used  It's over-used because that's what they use! It's like saying you don't want your Marines armed with bolters, because bolter-armed marines have been done before, and are over-used. Thousand Sons, culturally, are Egyptian-based, and their sword style mirrors the Khopesh. The katana is Japanese, and doesn't fit with the design aesthetic in any way. Would you add a Khopesh to a Space Wolves Captain because axes and hammers are overdone? No.  I'm sorry if I sound a little harsh, but it just doesn't work. A 'plain' sword I could see working, being a 'standard pattern' power sword, or something, but not something like a katana. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2181858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Weapon to the Goolies Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I feel that Khopesh's may be slightly over used  It's over-used because that's what they use! It's like saying you don't want your Marines armed with bolters, because bolter-armed marines have been done before, and are over-used.  No, no, it really isn't like saying that. You're reaching a bit. He wants to model 'a' katana. Not replace all the army's main weaponry with something Spacer'inos would never use.  And it's not as if Marines ALWAYS use bolters. Specialist weapons come into play, and we often see character models with NO GUNS AT ALL. LCs and Thunder Hammer-wielding idiots in the middle of Marine armies are often "more than occasional" in the ranks of the Elites and the ICs/HQs.  Yes, I realize it's often presumed they're carrying boltpistols slung in their waistband or whatever. But, come on.  These variations from the theme happen. It's not some crime. Quit sounding like the "Fluff Ayatollah", fer cri-yi.  Thousand Sons, culturally, are Egyptian-based, and their sword style mirrors the Khopesh. The katana is Japanese, and doesn't fit with the design aesthetic in any way.  Both of the above statements are only partially correct. 1000Sons are fake Egyptian, they are POP-CULTURE COMIC BOOK Egyptian...they also depart from the "culture" in many (small) ways all of the time.  Is Their homeworld called Qeb or Khemit? NO, it's called Prospero.  One of their main cities, mentioned in the HH Artbooks, is distinctly Incan (or possibly Mayan or Nahuatl) in name. Book's not with me right now, though.  Not everything about these guys is "pure" Egyptian. Not at all. And as for "fitting the aesthetic", the "aesthetic" is so over-the-top, even in the PH times, who could complain/ If it looks cool, do it, I say!  Would you add a Khopesh to a Space Wolves Captain because axes and hammers are overdone? No.  I might, if he was one of the Veteran Earth-Bloods from the old Legion. And that would work out just fine. As long as it looked cool, and we could handwave the explanation as to where he got it, sure I would.  I'm sorry if I sound a little harsh, but it just doesn't work. A 'plain' sword I could see working, being a 'standard pattern' power sword, or something, but not something like a katana.  I just think this is too harsh. Your "harshness" is in defense of something that doesn't need defending. The OP isn't going to destroy Prosperan culture by shifting around the look of one or two (or five or six) models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2182367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well, there are the khopesh, there are the scimitars, and there are straight blades. I wasn't able to track down a picture of the latter, but suffice to say, the pictures I have in my books are all of "normal"(2-3 feet) length bronze blades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2182422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well, there are the khopesh, there are the scimitars, and there are straight blades. I wasn't able to track down a picture of the latter, but suffice to say, the pictures I have in my books are all of "normal"(2-3 feet) length bronze blades. Â I'm so glad you found a a non-westernized concept of the scimitar! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2182695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Well, there are the khopesh, there are the scimitars, and there are straight blades. I wasn't able to track down a picture of the latter, but suffice to say, the pictures I have in my books are all of "normal"(2-3 feet) length bronze blades. Â I'm so glad you found a a non-westernized concept of the scimitar! Â I live to serve. :P Â But really, it looks cool, and I figured that the rule of cool wins. Plus it matches a drawing I once saw. Made by a history buff, by the way. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2183760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Thanks Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra,I have decided to go down the scimitar road, one problem, I can visulise the model, but can not think how to model it decently, perhaps basing it on Howling banshees, do you or any one else have any ideas on how to model that scimitar? Sounds like a TV show, "This week on "How to model that Scimitar", with your Host, Iron priest Jason Ogg, we are experimenting with the Emperors Champion's sword!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2183835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Get some bits from an online trader. I think the Howling Banshee swords are perfect, if in need of a little work on the hilt and the blade. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2183858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce11 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I used the tomb kings weapons for my heresy 1k Sons. The best part about it is that they are recognizable as who they are representing. So if your goal is to please the crowd I say go with the Kopesh (sp.?) If you have it set in your mind that scimitars are more accurate then by all means, have at it. Enjoy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2205597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjørn eirik Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 if you have the skill (and the resources) you could make it out of plasticard. or just use the banshee blades and cut of the gemstone by the hilt. really nice idea :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2226273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 what about a Shamshir? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2226295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 To model a katana (which is what the op has been looking for), have a katana blade from another model, and simply green stuff the hilt and grip onto the hand, and green stuff a little bit to make it look like the blade has a rope tied around it's base, like a spearhead might be attached to a shaft, when in reality it is helping bind the stolen blade to the grip. It is a little difficult, but not to hard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182706-thousand-son-katanas/#findComment-2226435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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