Void Stalkers Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 YO! I have recently picked up a loyalist dreadnought with hopes of converting it to chaos because, in my mind, it is easier then shooting myself later for buying the ugly current one. so far i have built a plasma cannon arm and am working on creating the torso to resemble the MK IV ones over at FW. this is where i have hit my first roadblock, i put the torso from a terminator onto the front (where the plate with the eagle and vision slot thing normally are) but i cant figure out what kind of head to use or how to position it. Regular helmets are too small and the head im working on using greenstuff is kind of uneven. Im trying to avoid it looking like a regular marine with GIANT shoulders and arms. My other problem is with my Dccw. I dont want to use the one from the kit as is, i want to make it more of a claw. My idea for this is to use an ork power claw, or just build one that is similar from tyranid claws or blades. Im not really set on what to do for the head, and Im looking for a way of making the claw out of blades. Any Ideas?? I cant post any pics until i find my camera... :) also, if anyone has already done a conversion like this, could u post some pics?! I want to see what others have done, thx! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse. Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 This should go in PCA, since we're the chaos section, not modelling section. (That place also handles loyalist dreads with more traffic) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2162677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I've seen this conversion done plenty of times with standard size CSM heads. They work just fine. check this out if you haven't seen it: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...showarticle=430 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2162684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Stalkers Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 , I did see that one before. it gave me the idea to use the termie chest, i didnt follow it exactly though..... you will be able to tell in the pics i found my camera too, and was able to take a few shots I apologize for the poor lighting, but i dont have a lamp small enough to carry around :rolleyes: well anyway, here is the sculpted head, still very WIP here is a side view the dread with the rim thingie to go above what ever head i finally use and the regular csm head i found Does the Head need to be raised up a little bit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2162700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisac Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Grab the armor segments (pieces that look like single armor plates with things like spikes or symbols on them) from the chaos vehicle packs and use that to cover where the faceplate on the loyalist dread usually goes. That will keep you from having a big hole behind your head. As an added touch, the face peeling out from the metal works as a good "trapped soul" faceplate. Example: http://nurgle.muschamp.ca/Models/toeJamFront.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2162786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeden Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 On my AoBR Dreadnought I took the knives from a box of Chaos Space Marines, cut off the handles, and stuck the blades on the regular DDCW. Though on the "top finger" I took a large hook I found in the box oc Chaos Space Marines (can't remember what the bit was specifically) and stuck it on there so it had an oversized claw and smaller sharp claws. Looks semi-decent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2163064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Go to LGS and buy a cheap dargon/daemon/monster looking thing that's at least simular size to dread (or you could buy a dragon or something simular from WHFB off e-bay. use the arm for the DCCW, use GS to mke shoulder & back/chest muscles so it looks like the dread is morphing into a daemon. That's what I did w/ mine & it looks quite good (When I did it you could bitz buy a dragon claw from WHFB though). Use the head from the beasty as the draeds head, again GS neck/shoulder muscles. Or if you've ever bought a defiler, the skull face plate looks like it it would be about right size for dread. I just started my 2nd dread conversion last night (1st one with the WHFB dragon claw was done years ago). I think I have another (different) dragon claw around here somewhere, and I'm going to try the skull face plate from defiler as head. Mine are the old metal chaos dreads, but they are (will be) so heavily converted that the old metal dread wks fine as a base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2163081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Stalkers Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 I like the idea of the dragon claw as an arm! My GS skills are not really up to par to make muscles though..... I will be getting a defiler sometime soon so I will try the skull mask as a head! but I think I found something to use as a head with more of a mechanical, robust look to it. the smoke launcher from the Rhino (I forgot to attach) seems to fit the size of the dread, the tubes being sensors and eyes It even covers up a good part of the hole behind it! As for the Armor plates from the chaos vehicle sprue, I was planning on using them to represent extra armor Thanks for the advice! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2164416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Hadafix Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 not sure if anyone has tried it (and i doubt it could be original) but have you tried the Defiler head/s? that way you could also call it a daemon engine for when it goes "wrong" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2164729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Ya know, the csm head w/ the big horns doesn't look too bad (your last pic). Looks better then a smk launcher for a head would look. The giant horns keep it from looking too, too, small. I would use that until you get the defiler. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2164883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffy.Gee Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 You could mix and match the parts from the Ironclad kit for different CCW. Or purchase one from Forgeworld. As for the gap above the head, try using greenstuff to make a tentacle or two coming out. Or use the tentacle part provided in the terminator box. I personally used the parts shown in the following links. http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/images/chaos_vehi...aster_large.jpg http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/images/chaos_vehicle_hook_large.jpg I mounted the dirge caster above the hook and it looks pretty decent. I don't have the model with me and I don't have any pictures so I can't provide any further help. JG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2164885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 As for the gap above the head, try using greenstuff to make a tentacle or two coming out. Or use the tentacle part provided in the terminator box. No tentacles...EVER. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2164932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bap2703 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 If it can help you, here is mine: http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4569/40k249.jpg http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9940/dreadface.jpg In my case I wanted a small head. I've seen dreads with defiler head and they appeared to big for me. So I went for a normal CSM torso/head. The second CCW is made with... obliterator weapon sprues + other bitz/sprue ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2165312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Stalkers Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 Wow! yours turned out really cool! hahaha whats wrong with tentacles?! anyway, I got a sarcophagus done (without a head) so you can see the space im trying too fill here now with the smoke launcher as a head (not done with it) now with the horned head again I still havent purchased a defiler yet, so i might not be able to take that route :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2166180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisac Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Smoke launchers look too much like a Tau unit to me. Go with the horned head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2167841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Yea, the smk launcher "head" looks like crap. Definately don't do that. the head w/ big horns doesn't look bad at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2167854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Stalkers Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 Alrighty then, horns it is! perhaps a little GS to add to the size... Anyway, thanks for the help! I appreciate it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2167866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Alrighty then, horns it is! perhaps a little GS to add to the size... I really, really, don't mean any offense by this...but I've seen your GS work, don't GS anything (until you practice some, and get more skilled). Unless it's just to make a "neck" raising the head up higher to fill some of the void space. But really the void space kinda gives it an "empty shell, possessed by a daemon" kinda look, that kinda wks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2167895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Stalkers Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 Aww.... I wanted to give it a Big smile! Jk Alright no GS, haha my "skills" ruined the trim around the plasma cannon... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2167917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Zaku Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 This should be easy, even for me, who is a certified GS bonehead. Just GS some thin tubes, and fill up the empty space left by the Sorcerer head. Perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2167946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Stalkers Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 would guitar wire work for that job? I have a bunch sitting around Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2167960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Zaku Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 If it fills the gap then by all means use it. Actually, that's a helluva lot better than GS, since it's already got all the texture you want, and you can easily adjust the way it looks by putting in different sizes of string. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2167992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neigorath Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I'd recommend bass strings. Guitar strings tend to be a bit too small. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182824-chaos-dread-head-dilema/#findComment-2168265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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