Tribune Brickerius Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Ave Brothers. I am contemplating running two Librarians in my strikeforce and would like to know how those of you who have used two of them have fared in battle. I have been monitoring the B&C Forums for some time now and decided to join. I have recently gotten into the 40K hobby after knowing about the game for many years and have completed enough for 1000 pt games. I have played only a handful of games so far and I am 50/50 with win loss. I have been wargaming for a long time now and finally have the chance to serve the Emperor with His newest chapter the Praetorian Legion Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes. Brothers, I seek your knowledge of the viability of the two Librarian led force. I thank you for your time and your shared experience. Tribune Brickerius 5th Cohort Praetorian Legion IMPERATOR VICTA ! PRAETORIA VICTA ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'm not sure how many people have tried out two librarians. I'm considering it for my Blood Ravens army, but I think overall one Librarian is good, but there are strong diminshing returns with two. I think the best Libarian powers are Null Zone and Avenger, plus the hood is nice. You only need one hood or null zone guy. So what is the other guy going to do? You could have a Gate of Infinity/Force Dome guy roll with something like a Sternguard squad in a pod, I guess. Overall, I think you're not going to find a plethora of advice on this topic. I'd proxy the models and try it out! Good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2163627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 It was confusing because they would always finish one another's sentences off, look at one another and then one would say something disjointed or burst out laughing. So Champion Minsc lopped their heads off and we burnt them, armour and all. :devil: Mutant scum Their Captain was confused by the incident report but we were convinced they were about to manifest Nurgle possession ;) . It was for their own good. :yes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2163696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I would use one with MotA and Quickening and the other with Null Zone and GoI. I haven't tried it with my Ultras yet but it looks interesting. (and my Templars would have Marshal_Wilhelm's reaction :devil: . ABHOR THE WITCH! DESTROY THE WITCH! ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2163861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I liked the Force Dome/Avenger combo with a Jump Pack. Toss him in a group of Assault Marines with dual Flamers and you have 3 templates and a 5++ save to help protect them as they get up the board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2164286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giga Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 It just occurred to me; What about a bike libby with vortex of doom and force dome? Put him with a unit of bikers. This allows you to move 12" and shoot the str10 ap1 pieplate, to an effective 24" range. I can imagine it working real well in a khan list, too, with an outflanking librarian coming out of the board edges and shooting something. Would make your opponent cringe, for sure. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2164312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 It just occurred to me; What about a bike libby with vortex of doom and force dome? Put him with a unit of bikers. This allows you to move 12" and shoot the str10 ap1 pieplate, to an effective 24" range. I can imagine it working real well in a khan list, too, with an outflanking librarian coming out of the board edges and shooting something. Would make your opponent cringe, for sure. ;) Run it with Vortex and Null Zone instead. That way anything that makes its Invulnerable save versus the S10, AP1 hit has to reroll it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2164617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giga Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I know about the great uses of nullzone. :D Sadly, there are few people in my local metagame who make extensive use of invulnerable saves. There's only the occasional th/ss termies and some special characters, and there's only one daemon army, and that one rarely plays. So, the nullzone isn't really worth it as there aren't many things I can use it against + using that + vortex would mean the librarian would have to be an epistolary, and I don't really feel like paying all those points for him. The force dome would only really be there for the rare situations when the librarian is out of range with the vortex, or the bikers are holding an objective or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2164656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiodome Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 so do people normaly pay the points to use 2 powers a turn? i've never used that... seems FAR too expensive, and turns a lovely cheap, useful HQ into something taking up a lot of points and needing babysitting to not risk those points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2166499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 If it'll be my only HQ, yes. I'd rather pay the 50 points for the Epistolary so he can fire out Avenger and then use his Force Weapon in melee, than have to decide which one I want more in a given turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2166906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giga Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 so do people normaly pay the points to use 2 powers a turn? i've never used that... seems FAR too expensive, and turns a lovely cheap, useful HQ into something taking up a lot of points and needing babysitting to not risk those points. The only reason I'd ever get an epistolary is if I was rolling a librarian with sternguard. That way you can use gate of infinity to teleport the sterns near an enemy squad, and rapid fire + use avenger to wipe out the squad. Otherwise, I don't think it's worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/182903-doubling-up-on-librarians/#findComment-2166973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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