Token Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Why does some of the new heads on the new sprue have flat necks, that only fit on one of the torsos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forseti Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I'm guessing that torso is the one GW deemed worthy to be Wolf Guard Pack Leader, as most of the cool heads are flat necked, so they want the WG to stand out more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanger Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Why does some of the new heads on the new sprue have flat necks, that only fit on one of the torsos? It's probably because of the hair/beard hanging in front of them. It's easier to assemble them this way. But you can use them on other chest parts too, just need something like green stuff to fill out the space. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I agree with Vanger, seems easier to assemble due to the unruly hair. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Think it has to do with casting more than assembly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalx the grey Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I thought those heads were intended to be for scouts, but since I just have metal scouts I really don't know. Are vanilla scout heads flat at the neck? A small green stuff job makes them usable for any torso of course, I am using the ones with the optic device to be my rhino crew or to make long fangs! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Yeah, I was told those were scout heads- I guess Ill find out for sure when I grab the battleforce. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I thought those heads were intended to be for scouts, but since I just have metal scouts I really don't know. Are vanilla scout heads flat at the neck? A small green stuff job makes them usable for any torso of course, I am using the ones with the optic device to be my rhino crew or to make long fangs! Hmmm I don't think so about only for scouts. The torso they fit is flat as well and it is PA. I'm starting to agree with Max, maybe a casting issue? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Darkwolf Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 if you cut the neck piece from the round heads it can be used on the base of the flat heads which will allow them to fit the other bodies also the head that you cut the neck off now fits the flat body Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJumppanen Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Think it has to do with casting more than assembly Definitely the casting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Think it has to do with casting more than assembly Definitely the casting. Nope not the casting. That was purposely made that way. If you want to argue this point, i can pull out my 10 years of injection molding experience and beat you with it. :D :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Think it has to do with casting more than assembly Definitely the casting. Nope not the casting. That was purposely made that way. If you want to argue this point, i can pull out my 10 years of injection molding experience and beat you with it. :D :lol: I think... and I may be wrong on this... that they meant it was done for ease of casting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Those two heads in question have particularily wild hair compared to the others. One dude has a braided beard swinging all over the place, and the other guy has two long braids flopping around. Most likely this was done as a casting thing, but if you actually look at the torso they're meant for, it has no chest detail at all. No eagle, no wolf symbols, no skull no nothin. They're speshul. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 And no they are not the scout heads. They are too big and would not fit on a scouit. I have 6 of them laying arond here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2165979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJumppanen Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Think it has to do with casting more than assembly Definitely the casting. Nope not the casting. That was purposely made that way. If you want to argue this point, i can pull out my 10 years of injection molding experience and beat you with it. :) :) Yes! It was definitely purposedly made that way, but to make that head like others are would be difficult and would require either giving up on those beards or very much different kind of sprue (and mold). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2166102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Think it has to do with casting more than assembly Definitely the casting. Nope not the casting. That was purposely made that way. If you want to argue this point, i can pull out my 10 years of injection molding experience and beat you with it. :D :( Yes! It was definitely purposedly made that way, but to make that head like others are would be difficult and would require either giving up on those beards or very much different kind of sprue (and mold). The thing that I will always complain about GW is the fact that they dont seem to know anything about injection molding. I mean, how many of you realize that you can get the resin quality figures of Forge World with injection molding ??? The point of making them flat, and what not really serves no purpose. There is/was no reason why they could not make them like the traditional heads. Its more of GW trying to be cheap with things and taking short cuts when none need to be taken. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2166198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Think it has to do with casting more than assembly Definitely the casting. Nope not the casting. That was purposely made that way. If you want to argue this point, i can pull out my 10 years of injection molding experience and beat you with it. :( :) Yes! It was definitely purposedly made that way, but to make that head like others are would be difficult and would require either giving up on those beards or very much different kind of sprue (and mold). The thing that I will always complain about GW is the fact that they dont seem to know anything about injection molding. I mean, how many of you realize that you can get the resin quality figures of Forge World with injection molding ??? The point of making them flat, and what not really serves no purpose. There is/was no reason why they could not make them like the traditional heads. Its more of GW trying to be cheap with things and taking short cuts when none need to be taken. Actually I'll throw them a bone this time. NEW SW SPRUE > old sw sprue (Except for the fact that meltaguns are now exceptionally rare) The new stuff is 10 times more detailed than any SM stuff I have seen before, and there's plenty of extras when you're done with the 10 men inside. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2166470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Considering it was a plastic model, it has nothing to do with molding... In fact, knowing a thing or two about the(ir) process and work flow for the plastics, I'd say it came about during the digital phase of making the sprue. It was intentionally made to be flat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2166539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJumppanen Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 The thing that I will always complain about GW is the fact that they dont seem to know anything about injection molding. I mean, how many of you realize that you can get the resin quality figures of Forge World with injection molding ??? The point of making them flat, and what not really serves no purpose. There is/was no reason why they could not make them like the traditional heads. Its more of GW trying to be cheap with things and taking short cuts when none need to be taken. Now for what i understand is that if they had done those heads like others then it would require them to designt a slide on the mold, right? And that would easily make mold to cost several times more? If so, then it does serve purpose of keeping cost low, witch is very propably critical considering that these figures aren't all that big serie product (for GW they might be, but for injection molded product they aren't). But to be truthfull, i do think that GW may not have all that good knowledge about IM. Also, sometimes i have wondered if they made some parts 1 on 1 scale from original when converting it from resin to metal (or was that metal to plastic, can't remember what that particular part was). They definitely didn't consider shrinkage when making those parts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2166570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Think it has to do with casting more than assembly Definitely the casting. Nope not the casting. That was purposely made that way. If you want to argue this point, i can pull out my 10 years of injection molding experience and beat you with it. :) :wacko: Yes! It was definitely purposedly made that way, but to make that head like others are would be difficult and would require either giving up on those beards or very much different kind of sprue (and mold). The thing that I will always complain about GW is the fact that they dont seem to know anything about injection molding. I mean, how many of you realize that you can get the resin quality figures of Forge World with injection molding ??? The point of making them flat, and what not really serves no purpose. There is/was no reason why they could not make them like the traditional heads. Its more of GW trying to be cheap with things and taking short cuts when none need to be taken. Sorry but if GW would produce at the speed and quality of FW they'd be bankrupted, The quality is appalling and the molds get worn out at a high pace. Never had a FW item that was flaw free Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2166636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
breng77 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I'm pretty sure at least some of them are meant to be scouts. The heads do fit the scout bodies, and have the eye sheilds you see on the nilla scouts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2166722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 you have one front powerarmor piece with closed neck and there you have the place where these heads should went...its because of facial hair on these guys...otherwise the head would sunk to deep into the neckjoint of the normal body and you automatically tilt their head if not even kill some of their beard pieces... This one Frontpiece is looking like an MK8 frontplate but without the high collar on the front...maybe its for an Wolflord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183069-flat-necks-on-the-new-space-wolf-pack/#findComment-2166792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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