Warhorse47 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Okay, I'm almost done on my 4 Twolves with riders using D&D minis. The problem is the base on the minis is 45mm. Should these guys go on a 40 mm base, cavalry base or leave em as is? Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 60mm :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I would probably go with Cav bases. If anyone other than you gets confused as to what kind of unit they are, Cav bases will probably help them realize. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 This is the reason I have not built a WGBL on TWM, I don't know the legal size to build for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Canis is mounted on a 60mm base. I would model your bases off of him Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 That cannot be used as an example as there may be a different base size for basic TWC. Until we know the base size it is one's guess. Canis may have a larger base to take advantage of his special rules. This is also the reason why I do not build TWC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Base on Dread size base. I BELIEVE its still in the rules that you can base on larger bases, but not smaller. So, later on, if they say they use smaller bases, your still ok if you dont want to rebase. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Base on Dread size base. I BELIEVE its still in the rules that you can base on larger bases, but not smaller. So, later on, if they say they use smaller bases, your still ok if you dont want to rebase. That was the 4th Edition rule; the rule now is to use what the model is supplied with. Since there are no models of TWC provided, you can do what you want. I would go with the 60mm base like Canis uses; there is no reason not to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Some may see this as wrong, and some tourney organizers may not allow Thunderwolf Cavalry due to the inadequate rule in this case. Most would rather not allow such things cause remember some would see it as trying to get an unfair edge (mainly in distance) on an opponent...just as long as everyone is aware of such things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Some may see this as wrong, and some tourney organizers may not allow Thunderwolf Cavalry due to the inadequate rule in this case. Most would rather not allow such things cause remember some would see it as trying to get an unfair edge (mainly in distance) on an opponent...just as long as everyone is aware of such things. Nobody would be that much of a jack ass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 yea, i'm doing mine off of 60mm base, using canis as the basis. nobody has disputed that with me so far. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I'm running the 60mm ones that came with Canis. It's the best and only indication we've got, and an unarguable one considering both TWC models I'm running are converted from him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewdrexler Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Has anyone called the Rules-Boyz at GW for an opinion? Or does GW not do that anymore? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Rules boyz say 60mm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiplash Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Base on Dread size base. I BELIEVE its still in the rules that you can base on larger bases, but not smaller. So, later on, if they say they use smaller bases, your still ok if you dont want to rebase. That was the 4th Edition rule; the rule now is to use what the model is supplied with. Since there are no models of TWC provided, you can do what you want. I would go with the 60mm base like Canis uses; there is no reason not to. does that mean we cant put ragnar, wolf guard, or ulrik on 40mm bases? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 Thanks for calling Nurglepuss. I was going to go with cavalry bases, since that was in the name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2166964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Base on Dread size base. I BELIEVE its still in the rules that you can base on larger bases, but not smaller. So, later on, if they say they use smaller bases, your still ok if you dont want to rebase. That was the 4th Edition rule; the rule now is to use what the model is supplied with. Since there are no models of TWC provided, you can do what you want. I would go with the 60mm base like Canis uses; there is no reason not to. does that mean we cant put ragnar, wolf guard, or ulrik on 40mm bases? Well, you aren't 'supposed to', but I don't play with anyone that cares about inconsequential things like that. I based my heroes on 40mm bases long ago, and don't plan on changing them. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2167044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Some may see this as wrong, and some tourney organizers may not allow Thunderwolf Cavalry due to the inadequate rule in this case. Most would rather not allow such things cause remember some would see it as trying to get an unfair edge (mainly in distance) on an opponent...just as long as everyone is aware of such things. Nobody would be that much of a jack ass. Remember when spain banned our 3rd edition codex for being to old, despite a legal FAQ and Erratta? Youd be amazed. Still, I think if I was making them Id see how the model turned out and then base appropriately- but I have a feeling, from my experiments, itll be a 40mm for most. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2167144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjames2112 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 the rule is that you have too use the models GW supplies. SO if you plan on running TWC in and serious turny you need to buy a Canis model wolf for every TWM you want. Thats why i wont run them till they make thier 25buck ones like Juggernauts of Khorne. 45bucks for a 45 point upgrade is out of my spending limit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2167159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 I thought that as long as it was 51% GW it was legal, so if I use the Marine and GW base, it should be good to go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2167303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleipnir Frostfang Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Frankly, seeing as how GW apparently intends for us to use Canis' model as the base model for the TWC, his base would probably be the correct size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2167317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I think I would almost like to play at a venue where someone tells me that I cant use models from my BRAND NEW codex... I havent raised hell like that in awhile. <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2167369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Basic run down so far: - People are saying 60mm base. Because Canis Wolfborn rides on Fangir, a Thunderwolf. - Some people are saying 40mm base (Terminator Size) - There was even a mention of using Cavalry bases (WFB Dire Wolves Base) So why use cavalry bases? is it because its mention that its unit type is "cavalry" and ignoring the basic facts that the old WFB Dire Wolves are mounted on cavalry bases, same goes for Space Marine Bikes. Also ignoring the fact that Thunderwolves are larger in size compared to the normal Fenrisian Wolves as shown with Canis Wolfborn and mentioned in the codex. Also, Canis Wolfborn is a special character who rides a Thunderwolf. Which is mounted on a 60mm base. So why would you go use a smaller size base, based off an actual model with its right sized base?! Just because there aren't any official Thunderwolf Cavalry models out there, it doesn't mean that their gonna go down in size with its base, especially when they already have a idea of its size with Canis. I just thought it was common sense?! I don't see the big confusion here!? I mean take out Canis Wolfborn and all you have is a Thunderwolf with its right base. Try putting that on a Cavalry base... or on a 40mm base. I know people aren't going to spend money to buy extra Canis Wolfborns just to have a Thunderwolf Cavalry, but with that model you have an idea of how large the wolf should be and what base to use. I dunno... just saying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2167591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Basic run down so far: - People are saying 60mm base. Because Canis Wolfborn rides on Fangir, a Thunderwolf. - Some people are saying 40mm base (Terminator Size) - There was even a mention of using Cavalry bases (WFB Dire Wolves Base) So why use cavalry bases? is it because its mention that its unit type is "cavalry" and ignoring the basic facts that the old WFB Dire Wolves are mounted on cavalry bases, same goes for Space Marine Bikes. Also ignoring the fact that Thunderwolves are larger in size compared to the normal Fenrisian Wolves as shown with Canis Wolfborn and mentioned in the codex. Also, Canis Wolfborn is a special character who rides a Thunderwolf. Which is mounted on a 60mm base. So why would you go use a smaller size base, based off an actual model with its right sized base?! Just because there aren't any official Thunderwolf Cavalry models out there, it doesn't mean that their gonna go down in size with its base, especially when they already have a idea of its size with Canis. I just thought it was common sense?! I don't see the big confusion here!? I mean take out Canis Wolfborn and all you have is a Thunderwolf with its right base. Try putting that on a Cavalry base... or on a 40mm base. I know people aren't going to spend money to buy extra Canis Wolfborns just to have a Thunderwolf Cavalry, but with that model you have an idea of how large the wolf should be and what base to use. I dunno... just saying. He doesnt ride a TWM- he rides FANGIR. The largest known thunderwolf. Thus any others should be smaller. Fangir happens to use the rules of a TWM, supposedly, but we dont know what the bonuses are actually- all we know is that they are already included in Canis' profile, and likely are +1 S and +1 T. Its kind of like how Vulkan Hestan isnt equiped with a Heavy Flamer- hes got a Gauntlet of the Forge instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2167604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 What bases do other "cav" units in the game use? Roughriders or such? How about beasts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183143-t-wolf-mount-base-size/#findComment-2167615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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