thade Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Brand new about-to-be-a Space Wolf player. Planning out my army now. Part of the appeal here is that he'll be riding a wolf. (How awesome is that?) Though, riding a wolf I either get to give him some wolfie fast cav (very expensive) or Fenresian Wolves (cheap soakers of bullets, but something tells me a single template will wipe them out if I'm not careful at keeping them spread out). So, I'm hoping I can keep them spread out and thus he'll have 80 pts worth of cheap extra wounds...not to mention some vicious CC support from the ones that survive to close. So, here we go.. Wolf Lord - 245 Belt of Russ (I feel this is almost necessary as he doesn't come with an Iron Halo; or I might take a Storm Shield instead for a few more pts) Wolftooth Necklace (Very nice for HQ hunting, but this is probably some points I could drop as he's WS 6) Wolf Tail Talisman (so cheap it feels worth it?) Thunderwolf Mount (makes an already vicious CC fighter even more scary) Saga of the Warrior Born (omg is this awesome to me; not optional imo <3 for fluff and nerd reasons) Frost Axe (also for fluff, but it seems like it'd be really effective) 8 Fenrisian Wolves with one Cyberwolf - 72 points ... possibly more wolves? But 8 feels like a good number. I think I could keep him (and the wolves) in cover behind Rhinos on their way across the board. Also, I'm going to field two Lone Wolves with a few wolves (negative kill points for the win ;) to ride in and support/counter charge for him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar8481 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 give him 2x wolf claws instead I think. belt is fine, but if you load up on Fensrisian wolves instead you'll never need it. Cyber wolf isn't worth it in a unit like this (only with the IP I think). frost axe is nice instead, but the reroll-ability from the WC when he'll be S5 already from the wolf seems worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2168445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 Do the +1 Str from the Wolf and the +1 Str from the Frost Axe not stack? Str 6 = wounds MEQ on 2s, which would be very very nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2168490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar8481 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 they stack, I'm just saying that rerolling 3s to wound will generate more kills than rolling 2s with no reroll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2168501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Right, so I guess two lighting claws and a 4++ are what I'll do there. Thanks. =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2169153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 geez, I walked into my local GW store and this kid's Wolf Lord blew me away.. I was just like woah, that guy is a monster! which got me thinking if its legal or a little overkill?! Wolf Lord 255pts Frost Axe Storm Shield Runic Armour Wolf Tooth Necklace 2 Fenrisian Wolves Mark of the Wulfen Saga of the Warrior Born Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2170348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmwulf Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 This setup is legal but stupid. you can't use the benefits of special close combat weapons ehen you have mark of the wulfen. so it makes no sense to give a wolf lord both, he would have payed the points for the frost weapon without beeing able to use it.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2170483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 ...I bet he did use it, though... =) getting D6+1 attacks, at Str 6, all armor-ignoring would be ridiculous. And that is, in fact, illegal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2170544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 This setup is legal but stupid. you can't use the benefits of special close combat weapons ehen you have mark of the wulfen. so it makes no sense to give a wolf lord both, he would have payed the points for the frost weapon without beeing able to use it.. aye that's what I thought and said to the kid, and he said that he wanted that extra strength if he didn't get any rending hits done. He also mentioned maybe dropping the 2 Fenrisian Wolves and adding either a Jump Pack or Space Marine Bike for that added T(5). I was like geez! what got to me was the saga... would it stack to his Mark of the Wulfen D6+1 attack? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2170557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 The saga would stack...but what do you mean "he said that he wante the extra strength if he didn't get any rending hits done"? He has to call whether he's using Mark OR the Frost Axe at the start of the CC phase, before any rolling is done. He can't roll for rending hits at his normal strength then just add +2 str to it if he didn't get any 6s. =P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2170564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 The saga would stack...but what do you mean "he said that he wante the extra strength if he didn't get any rending hits done"? He has to call whether he's using Mark OR the Frost Axe at the start of the CC phase, before any rolling is done. He can't roll for rending hits at his normal strength then just add +2 str to it if he didn't get any 6s. =P actually its +1str for the Frost Weapon. I'm sure that's what he meant with his attacks if he didn't get any rending, using the Frost Weapon as an added str even if he wasn't using it. He was setting up for a game at the store and I figured the best way to learn is hands on instead of some bystander tell him the rules LOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2170569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 actually its +1str for the Frost Weapon. Ah, yes, I'm sorry. I was confusing the additional +1 str that my proposed HQ will get for sitting on a wolf; the whole "Relic Blade"-thing from my DIY codex chapter has me in +2 str land. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2171978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tiger Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 they stack *slams head into desk*.......................*repeatedly*........................................*until dead* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2172002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittenofdeath Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 geez, I walked into my local GW store and this kid's Wolf Lord blew me away.. I was just like woah, that guy is a monster! which got me thinking if its legal or a little overkill?! Wolf Lord 255pts Frost Axe Storm Shield Runic Armour Wolf Tooth Necklace 2 Fenrisian Wolves Mark of the Wulfen Saga of the Warrior Born d6+1 attacks, a max of 7, why would anyone put this on a wolf lord? he already has 4 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2172182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkseer Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 lol. Mark of the wulfen is bad for characters. It changes your attacks for 4 to D6+1. BDJV and I wrote a Wolf Lord guide here if you're interested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2172204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 This setup is legal but stupid. you can't use the benefits of special close combat weapons ehen you have mark of the wulfen. so it makes no sense to give a wolf lord both, he would have payed the points for the frost weapon without beeing able to use it.. aye that's what I thought and said to the kid, and he said that he wanted that extra strength if he didn't get any rending hits done. He also mentioned maybe dropping the 2 Fenrisian Wolves and adding either a Jump Pack or Space Marine Bike for that added T(5). I was like geez! what got to me was the saga... would it stack to his Mark of the Wulfen D6+1 attack? No... mark of the Wulfen specificly states you cant use any wargear with it... and guess where you find the rules for the Frostblade? The wargear section. Kid probly wasnt trying to cheat, as wargear is traditionally non-weapon items you carry... but thats how it goes these days. That being said Saga of the Warrior born grants one bonus attacks... and MotW says you get your normal bonus attacks *for charging, sacred relics, etc* so yes, it can stack with MotW. I agree with those who say that putting MotW on your WL is a waste of points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183346-considering-how-to-kit-out-my-wolf-lord/#findComment-2172253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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