Karsus Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hi. While assembling models, I just wondered which weapon/weapons between bolters and CCW+pistol will be more useful for the GHs. I think GHs are more suited with bolters, when I think about their equivalent, Tactical Squad.....but, which one do you guys prefer to use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizara Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Modeling wise..i model my grey hunters with bolters, and some with bolters and chain swords. Reason for that is one, they come with bolters so its easier to model them with the bolters in hand and pistol holsters on the side. Also because Blood claws come with only pistol and CCW, its just easier to identify them by using that combo for them and bolters for the GH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 ive always been a bg guy, but since i only have two packs with bgs i use one of my old BC packs as a GH pack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 with bolters and a ccw. So you see they have a bolter and a CCW for more attacks in cc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 The good thing about the new Hunters is that they get all three weapons, so you can mix up the unit and model with some variety if you want, doing some with Gun only, some with Gun and CCW, some with Pistol and CCW, one with Mark of the Wulfen, one with a Wolf Standard, two with Melta or Plasma. As long as the Pack Marking is consistent everyone will know what unit they are in, and I think the variety in weapons helps with the dynamic anti-codex look. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I'm working on a pair of squads of Grey Hunters (okay okay, it's my DIY and they're "counts-as" Grey Hunters - doesn't matter here). The first squad is a little more static, posed as though setting up a base of fire. They all have their boltguns out, along with a CCW and bolt pistol sheathed on their person somewhere. My other squad is posed to be on the move - maybe even charging - and most of them have their CCW and bolt pistols drawn, with boltguns slung somewhere on their person. Long story short - why pick when you can assemble models that have all of their wargear right there? If you have to choose, though, I would go with boltguns, and I would try to make sure a CCW was somewhere on every model, whether in hand or not. To me, the boltgun is the surest sign of the veteran Space Wolf. Blood Claws don't get the Holy Bolter, after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I pose mine with Boltguns and Chainswords, apart from one which has a Boltgun and Powerfist and 2 which have Meltaguns or Flamers. Given the large number of times a Marine has weilded a Boltgun with hand in the fluff, I see no reason why my Grey Hunters wouldn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hmm can somebody please post some pics. I'm quite interested in where you guys stick your chainswords on a GH that has both hands taken up with a bolt gun. I prefer to imagine my GH armed with combat knives for their ccw's. Seems a bit more brutal to me. A bit more up close and personal like if you know what I mean. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearboy Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Well 2 of the bolters on the new sprue are one handed... And my old grey hunters in true grit poses had a bolt pistol arm and a bolter in place and then a chainsword in the other hand. Also some had combat knives in hand, some were holding it 2 handed, some had grenades etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I agree mix it up, don't go for the toy soldier look where every wolf is in the same pose. Give a general they are all shooting pose or they are all in CC, but from there give a unique pose to every GH, some wth pistols some with bolters. Go for a we are about to assult look so some are pulling combat knives, some throwing nades, some with chainswords and Bolters some with Bolt Pistol and chainsword. You get the idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I like to take bolt pistol arms, cut out the bolt pistol and put a bolter in the hand. Then give a ccw in the other arm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdeptusDavidus Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Hmm can somebody please post some pics. I'm quite interested in where you guys stick your chainswords on a GH that has both hands taken up with a bolt gun. I prefer to imagine my GH armed with combat knives for their ccw's. Seems a bit more brutal to me. A bit more up close and personal like if you know what I mean. :woot: Well, chainswords have yet to make an appearance in my force, but maybe you'll get some ideas from a few of my guys in progress. Incidentally, each of these figures has all wargear modelled - boltgun (or replacement), bolt pistol, close-combat-weapon (predominantly knives), frag grenades and krak grenades. This will be this squad's Mark of the Wulfen guy: His associate, the meltagunner (his photos turned out a bit fuzzy): The most recent addition, the Wolf Standard bearer, who still has some putty work and detailing to add - such as the standard itself: And finally a member of a different squad - he'll just be a "plain" trooper, so to spice him up I gave him the squad automatic weapon: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjames2112 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Wow man a true professional. the modeling hobby isnt as big of a part to my play as the actual game. So i guess i just use my black reach marines as grey hunters. and ones with CC weps are my BCs... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Since we now have uber grit, I ensure that each model has one of the following. 1. Bolter (either in hand or attached to the hip 2. CCW either a knife on the hip/leg/in hand, a chain sword or axe in hand or on hip, or as a bayonet 3. A bolt pistol in or out of holster, either in hand, on hip/leg, 4. One type of grenade. (either the krak or the frag but not both since there usually aint any room left after 1-3! :P ), or pouches to represent grenades. The grenades usually reside on the hip, but may also be included in hand or on the shoulder pauldron. I looooove the variety uber grit provides. No two models look alike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Personally, I'd go for bolters and ccw. It helps distinguish them from BCs and it is easier to paint the chest of the marine when they're holding two different weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Here's an example of my GH's with mostly bolter and CCW. This was before the current dex where uber grit was revealed. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/hansmannstein/RedFangFinished.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsus Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 One question. What is Uber Grit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 My squads have a mix. Some are B/CCW, Some just B and some BP/CCW... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdal Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 One question. What is Uber Grit? In our old codex Space Wolves had a rule called "True Grit". It made it possible for Grey Hunters (and others) to wield bolters and CCW at the same timem giving the two attacks at any time (counting as two CCW in CC), but would not get the charge bonus if assaulting. Bolters are too wieldy to handle. And if you wanted to assault you couldnt shoot to soften up the target. In the new rules the GH have the ability to chose betwen Bolt Pistol or a Bolter, thus giving the an additional attack when charging and the ability to shoot before assault. "Uber grit" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsus Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Is that mean that GH can shoot with bolter and swap bolter with pistol&CCW to get A+1 bonus or something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2169989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdal Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Is that mean that GH can shoot with bolter and swap bolter with pistol&CCW to get A+1 bonus or something? Nope. Shoot with bolter = no assault They can however shoot with pistols and then charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2170009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Just keep your mind open and think of a pose then start chopping plastic and filling in with GS> http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/WG_Vrox/TrueGrit31-1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2170027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Absolutely love that GH Vrox. Saved to HDD! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2170068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsus Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 Is that mean that GH can shoot with bolter and swap bolter with pistol&CCW to get A+1 bonus or something? Nope. Shoot with bolter = no assault They can however shoot with pistols and then charge. I mean, like, shoot with bolter when enemies are 24" away in turn 2 and swap to pistol and shoot in 6" range and charge in turn 3? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2170174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I mean, like, shoot with bolter when enemies are 24" away in turn 2 and swap to pistol and shoot in 6" range and charge in turn 3? Yes, Also if they are within 12" and you choose to double tap during your turn, if during their turn they assault you, you still get the +1 benefit of having two CCW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183415-gh-with-bolters-vs-gh-with-ccwpistols/#findComment-2170184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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