Ferrus Manus Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I saw a small discussion within this thread about the factions of the Inquisition and people's opinions on their beliefs. Now my question to you is which faction would you fall under and why? Personally, I would (and my Inquisitor is) be of the Amalathian faction. Simply because I believe that the greatest threat to the might of the Imperium is from within. Nevermind the Xenos and the Forces of Chaos, let the Astartes deal with them. But if the will to defeat such forces isn't there, due to corruption or what have you, the Imperium wouldn't stand a chance. After all, united you stand, divided you fall. The same applies here. Well that's my rationale, so let's hear yours... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I think I would fall under the Monodominant faction. (my main Inquisitor is one) For me, it is partly slanted that way because I played Black Templars, but the Emperor's foes are not corruption and petty bickering among planetary governors, they are the Mutant, the Witch, and the Xeno. It is the duty of the Inquisition to protect humanity from such influences. The Astartes deal with the large-scale invasions of the foe, but the Emperor's enemies are often much more subtle. The Astartes' job is not to be there to protect the population of a planet from Tau propaganda, which teaches loyal Imperial citizens to turn against the Emperor for the so-called "greater good", and where are the Space Marines when a Genestealer or Obliterator cult gains foothold on a planet, mutating it's inhabitants to become something that is an abomination to be abhorred, and is the purpose of the Angels of Death to guard against a rogue psyker becoming a conduit for Chaos? No! The Adeptus Astartes are there to fight the large campaigns against the enemies of the Emperor. This is where the Inquisition comes in. The Inquisition's duty is to fight the unseen war against the Mutant, the Witch, and the Xeno. Innocence proves nothing. The Inquisition must seek out the Emperor's foes and eliminate them, before they can become powerful enough to threaten His holy reign. That is my explanation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2171645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversmith82 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I fall under whatever Karazamov is. His philosophy is "The Emperor had a plan, you don't know what that is so don't pretend to and leave it the hell alone". I think that is Amalathian actually but I could be wrong. It says right in his description in the WH dex what he is but I don't have it handy right now. And yes I do agree that the greatest threat to humanity is from within which is one reason I am so drawn to the Inquisition as a whole. I mean seriously, militarily the Imperium can stand up and defeat anything in the galaxy. And I'm talking big picture here not system wars or smaller skirmishes. Yes I know if the Orks united blah blah blah but by their nature that will never happen. Tau Empire is too small, Eldar are too few, Necrons seem too few also etc... etc... Only BIG threat besides Chaos is the Nids and apparently the Ultramarines are immune to bugs so we're good there too lol. But Chaos... they work from without and within and indeed many of the worst catastrophes in the Imperium came from within. The Horus Heresy, Vandire, however many loyal chapters have fallen to chaos since then, the daemonic incursions etc... You can't say Chaos isn't the biggest threat to the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2171697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Time to give the Radicals some representation; my Inquisitor is essentially a mix of Recongregator and Thorian. The Imperium has a lot of problems and needs to be reformed, and the best person to carry out said reforms is one of the Emperor's Divine Avatars. In many ways the greatest threat to the Imperium does come from within, but while the Witch, Mutant, and Heretic are great threats one must also be wary of the danger posed by the Fanatic. There are many within the Imperium who believe themselves to be doing the Emperor's good works, and yet through their madness and ignorance they do Humanity a great deal of harm; taken to extremes the Puritan philosophy can be just as dangerous as Radicalism. A mild version of Xeno Hybris also goes into my Inquisitor's personal philosophy; Xenos can be useful to the Imperium under the right circumstances. Sanctioned Xenotech can give the Imperium an edge over their enemies, temporary alliances with the less immediately dangerous Xenos (Eldar, Tau) can give the Imperium an important strategic advantage, etc. Since the Xeno Hybris are essentially a one-issue faction they're pretty easy to mix in with just about any other school of thought in the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2171794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Amalathian best suits me, most of my Inquisitors have been Amalatian. For me it represents a centrist view point which to me makes sense, its also a slightly lenient philosphy which is more fun to play as you can justify a little bit of mutation or alien goodness. That said though, I don't like to take factions too seriously and focus too much on them, I prefer the field inquisitor to the more political desk aspect of the job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I have a monodominant inquisitor, but he's 'looked after' for lack of a better term, by a higher ranked inquisitor who's an amalathian. They have a rather complicated relationship, Levinski (the monodominant) knows he needs Alexis (the amalathian), but he resents her too and can't wait for the day when he can escape her. She knows that the moment that happens the Imperium is going to be in even bigger trouble than it is already, so does everything in her power to keep him in check. The political situation of the system they operate in means she can't just 'get rid of him' without causing even more trouble. I'm still deciding on where to take this story though... Oh right, you wanted to know what we would be. I'd probably be just another inquisitor hunting rogue psykers and such like, preferably trying to avoid all this political rubbish in favour of just getting the job done. Hmm, I think I'm going to have to add another character to my stories... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwitexansfan Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 My Inquisitor, Lord Kuzco is a Xanthite Recongregationalist with delusions of grandeur. He is a believer in any means to the end, and the end is a restructuring of the Imperium. Needless to say he has ambitions to be at the top of that tree when all is said in done, after all someone's got to keep the big guys chair warm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
panbient Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 mine is a thorian xantithe. trying to use the word of the emperor to shape the will of chaos or something like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawtooth Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Thorian. Probably because I started playing under much older fluff and ascribe to the Star Child theory. When the Golden Throne fails, the Emperor shall come again. And He is going to be pissed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 Some good points forward so far guys. Obviously it comes down to personal choice. Its just interesting to see how many people use their Inquisitor characters as a 'front' for their own beliefs :P. @ Captain Malachi - any chance you've posted this story yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senseilord Ashahara Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 If I may be so bold, I would like to repost this in character post from the most geeky and most fun thread I have had the delight of being a part of on this forum - The Inquisitorial Cencus. " "How many Monodominant players are actually of the Monodominant strain...." Brother Inquisitor, the term 'Mondominant' is one coined by those Inquisitors for whom the lure of Politics is more intresting than their Emperor-Ordained task. Be us Malleus, Hereticus, Xenos or other, it is our mission to root out the enemies of Mankind.. The emphasis is there for it is of great importance. Our Galaxy is the Galaxy of The Throne. The Imperium is the Imperium of the Emperor for Mankind.The Xenos races are an unclean taint in His holy domain. They shall be purged by the Ordo so concerned. The Daemon and those Traitors most unclean are of obvious and aweful danger to His holy domain and must be erradicated with Blessed Promethium by the Ordo so concerned. I am Hereticus. My remit is to purge the Enemy within. It's face is many. The Depraved, The Apostate, The Deviant from The Creed; sure we can all agree that those aught to be cleansed but does that go far enough brothers? No it does not. The Witch, wether tame or feral, is a mortal danger to His domain. The witch hears the whispers of the Ruinous Powers at all times. Even those so vetted and sanctioned by the Adeptus Astra Telepathica and the Scholums fall to their promises. Non can predict when their so lauded willpower will falter, but when it does,for even a second, worlds burn and the Legions of the Enemy pour into His galaxy. The risk is too great. The Mutant's courruption is obvious to all who care to look. Does not the twisted and squat frame of the Ratling evidence it's lack of charactor and Devotion to The Throne? Is not the puny mind and oafish frame of the Ogryn testement to it's brutish nature? What of the 'noble' Navigator houses? Inbred, twisted three-eyed beasts that look apon the Warp? That duel with their Ether Sight?! Such beings are not of our species! They are no better than the Aliens the Ordo Xenos obliterates in His Name! Should we tolerate the Alien within ? Terra no! And finally what of the Astartes? The much vaunted and saintly defenders of Mankind. The geno-warped, seven foot tall, acid spiting Astartes. Dual-hearted, tri-lunged chirgo-altered mongrals. Do they submit themselves unto His Holy Ecclesiarchy or Millitorum Command? They do not Do they recognise they Emperor as the Divine saviour he is? No they do not. They practice outlandish corpse devotion and venerate Icons that draw Worship away from The Throne. Is it any suprise that it is they who nigh destroyed that which the Emperor put into motion and they who nigh murdered He who is Most Holy? It is not. The Space Marine is a dangerous force in the very heart of His Domain and one that must be watched with unending vigilance lest they challange Him again." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 @ Captain Malachi - any chance you've posted this story yet? Nah, I just write them for the fun of writing, no-one ever sees them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 It's all about the Thorians... :lol: The Star Child theory is the correct one, as evidenced by numerous fluff examples, IMO. It's also amusing being of a Faction that has their own agenda in addition to saving the world. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Swas Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Any chance there's a succinct summary of these factions somewhere? 0:-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Front of the Inquisitor rule book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom James Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Any chance there's a succinct summary of these factions somewhere? 0:-D GW has been kind enough to make the Inquisitor rulebook a free download. You can view the rulebook and other Inquisitor related material on the Inquisitor Resources page. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'll do you one better, its here I wrote it a while back now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2172861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'd say that Istvaanian but it's not that simple.... Most of factions are right in some point, some of them are exaggerating.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2173116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I think thats kind of the point and that ultimatly all politics is futile but unavoidable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2173180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Remiel Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 After experiencing office politics when I was in the military, I would describe my Inquisitorial faction as a very liberal Amalathian. I realize politics are a necessary evil (stress on the evil), unavoidable at times. I also realize the status quo just does not cut it sometimes and changes are necessary however they should be controlled and measured, not destructive like promulgated by the Recongregators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2173268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor =D= Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 If any of you guys kept up on the Inquisitor Rp that went on this board some time ago you'll remember my character Inquisitor Blake Decklan. I believe as he does. Its a puritan style but it simply doesn't fit with many of the factions I've read. To put it simply, the Warp and all things in it are to be denied. The Emperors Light and being are anathema to the daemon and obviously that says we are to deny them. The Warp however can never be destroyed, never snubbed, its the darkside of the moons the far side of the stars it will always be there, but that doesn't mean we can be lax. Work always to banish the warp wherever it may be found. The xenos on the other hand... well that's one he simply can't decide on as a whole and takes it case by case. For example, Tyranid = Exterminate, Tau =Keep em away from those weak willed out-worlds., Jokero = Strangely useful for their technology. So on and so forth. He's not above using "Hidden" or "Forgotten" technology to achieve his goals. For example, the strange armor he wears is an extremely rare suit of armor used by the "Immortals" of that poor world that claimed itself "Terra" and defied the True Emperor's crusade. (out of the Horus Rising novel) If the Admech ever got wind, Decklan would have to "Vanish" and fast. And it's only one of many things Decklan would resort to to deny the Daemon. :D As I said I'm much the same way. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2173298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaled100 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Most of factions are right in some point, some of them are exaggerating.... Remember that within each faction there are a wide spectrum of beliefs - so there are members who are more moderate or more extreme in their beliefs. A moderate Recongregator may not foster cults and use them to destabilize the Imperium but work alongside Imperial organisations to change them for the better; an extremist Amalathian may seek to prevent all change, even if it is beneficial, believing that to do otherwise would cause the Emperor's grand plan to be derailed; a moderate Monodominant may only seek to burn unsanctioned psykers whereas a extremist may believe that all psykers, even useful ones, must die; and so on. Also, the six factions in the Inquisitor rulebook are far from the only ones described in the canon. The Thorian Sourcebook contains details of a number of other resurrectionist beliefs other than Thorianism, and the Dark Heresy books also detail more factions (most of which are described briefly on Lexicanum). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2173413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Also, the six factions in the Inquisitor rulebook are far from the only ones described in the canon. The Thorian Sourcebook contains details of a number of other resurrectionist beliefs other than Thorianism, and the Dark Heresy books also detail more factions (most of which are described briefly on Lexicanum). IIRC, the factions in the Inquisitor rulebook are the biggest, most influential ones with most coherent philosophies. IIRC a lot of the other factions are kind of single-issue factions like the Xeno Hybris and Seculos Attendous, who don't really care about much beyond their specific area of interest and can have both Radical and Puritan members. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2173420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaled100 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 IIRC, the factions in the Inquisitor rulebook are the biggest, most influential ones with most coherent philosophies. True, those six perhaps the most influential ones at the moment, but that's no reason why people should stick to only using those ones. Other factions have been dominant in the past, and will be again and it's better that people explore the full spectrum of Inquisitorial beliefs than stick to just these six. I suppose part of the problem is that people often use the names of the 'big six' to lump together similar philosophies - for example, people often refer to 'Thorian' beliefs when they are actually talking about resurrectionist beliefs; or 'Xanthite' beliefs when they're talking about the beliefs where the enemy's weapons can be turned against them. Similarly, people often mistakenly use 'Amalathian' as a synonym for 'moderate'. (I've always found it strange that Amalathians are generally stereotyped by their more moderate members, whereas the other factions are stereotyped by those members who take their beliefs to almost heretical extremes.) IIRC a lot of the other factions are kind of single-issue factions like the Xeno Hybris and Seculos Attendous, who don't really care about much beyond their specific area of interest and can have both Radical and Puritan members. Yes some of the minor factions could be regarded as 'off-shoots' of the 'big six'; but, for example, how are Xeno Hybris beliefs more 'single-issue' than Xanthite ones? I'm also not a fan of describing Inquisitors and their beliefs purely in terms of 'radical' and 'puritan' (especially when a lot of people misunderstand the term radical and believe it's a synonym for heretic) when that only describes a single aspect of their beliefs (i.e. whether they follow the letter or spirit of established doctrine). Some of these philosophies are neither radical nor puritan, but others very definitely fall into one camp (e.g. Seculos Attendous and Xeno Hybris are very definitely 'radical'), and by definition, someone who follows a radical philosophy is a 'radical' - i.e. you can't have a 'puritan Xanthite' or a 'radical Amalathian' (but you could have a 'moderate Xanthite' or an 'extremist Amalathian'; or even an Amalathian who's therefore a puritan, but who has taken his beliefs to such extremes that he's declared a heretic). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2173641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 I think Kaled100 is right in the fact that can very truly classify someone under one of six groups. There are too many things to consider, such as strength of such beliefs and deviance from said beliefs; are they extremist or liberal? You get the point, but I think that you can classify yourself (or a character based on yourself) which is what I originally intended people to do, however I never said they had to restrict themselves to the 6 'in' factions :). But still this is a good 'debate' that seems to be rising. And I will update that Librarium article with the info on the factions from the Thorian supplement. Thanks. Also, Kaled100 being the Inquisitor game god that you are, would you mind looking over a profile I have? As I don't think the math is right. Parts of the rulebook were slightly confusing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183664-inquisitorial-factions/#findComment-2173687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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