Wolf Guard Dan Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I like the idea of Seraphim Valkyries in a SW army. I think they fit well into the role of valkyrie. Their +1 LD to units withing 6inches is cool cuz its like the warriors do not fear death because they want to prove themselves to the valkyries to be taken to a true warrior's afterlife. I am not a fan of talking about maxing faith points. If you want faith points, play a pure Witch Hunters list. I also think there are better options to fill any role your Seraphim will take on. But, it is still viable and I could see myself doing it someday. It is pretty fluffy. Not that -=][=- mixing with SW is fluffy, but maiden valkyries and SW. For fluff I would say the SoB are from a cult following the Emperor as the All-Father. Maybe a fenris based cult. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2175410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 Havent even bought them yet lol. And Dan the +1 ld only works on other Sister units, so the rest of the wolves wont benefit from it. And very true that the other units might be better for the role, even skyclaws as they are cheaper now.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2175945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 And Dan the +1 ld only works on other Sister units, so the rest of the wolves wont benefit from it. Good call. I missed that part while skimming over the witch hunter codex. Seraphim are still a cool unit. For what I said before, their role would obv be different than skyclaws. skyclaws are a push and kill unit seraphim are more of a finesse unit. If you use em, let us know how it turns out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2176903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Enough talk get some pictures up already Hey I am new to the forums. I didn't see any pics of these so called Valkyries, so I figured I would post mine! http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/V1.jpg http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/V2.jpg http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/V3.jpg http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/V4.jpg http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/V5.jpg http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/V6.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2193267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Da da, dadada, daaa, Da, dadada, Daaa, daaa, DA, dadada, daaaa, da da da daaaaa! Yeah i like those, look cooler than i thought they would. I think if your just using the rules for seraphim or blood claws for these models its fine, just say that theres a 'sleeper sister cell' in the temple of freya, on the planet of ylgiir in the fenris system.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2193268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Looks pretty much how I had imagined them, love the winged helmets :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2193525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Looks pretty much how I had imagined them, love the winged helmets :D So do I! Did you green stuff the feathers or is that a head from another model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2193658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Thanks for the comments! I really liked making these models! I was always a fan of Valkyrie Profile for the Playstation, so when someone introduced me to the Space Wolves army, I figured some Valkyries would go great with them. The heads are actually female Glade Guards from the Wood Elves. I hand sculpted the helmet, feathers, and the big braid on each girl. The feathers were the hardest part. They look a lot of effort! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2193678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 well a HQ is required for the ability to take allies. and with SW you can still grab 2 SW heroes and one SoB Cannoness. My thought is you should run that in a foot sloggy army and take your required 1 troop as a 20 sister squad. small faith point and you get to make your bolter shots AP1 . nothing better then cheap sisters gunning down a squad of terms. lmao AP1? Where did this come from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2193735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 I assume he means the AP2 from the "rending" faith-power, just got it mixed up with all the lovely meltas ;P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2193866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 No offence but they seem a bit femenine... I have never thought of the fenrisians for having a transgenderlook but the rest of the moddel look cool. If you could remove the boobs or the chick or add more fatt to the face, that would realy help. As far as I know the gene seed of SM needs to be attacked to male? Or am I wrong? (I haven't actualy read that so I might just be sexist here.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2194266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 No offence but they seem a bit femenine... I have never thought of the fenrisians for having a transgenderlook but the rest of the moddel look cool. If you could remove the boobs or the chick or add more fatt to the face, that would realy help. As far as I know the gene seed of SM needs to be attacked to male? Or am I wrong? (I haven't actualy read that so I might just be sexist here.) Do you even know what a Valkyrie is? This might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie Making Valkyries for a Space Wolf army is purely Fan-fluff, based on the Norse Mythology look that Space Wolves have. It has nothing to do with with the SM gene seed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2194319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Blood Giver Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 has no one ever played 'too human'? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2194322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 has no one ever played 'too human'? I have! Great Game! Took forever for it to come out, but I am glad it did. I have liked Silicon Knights since "Legacy of Kain". They make pretty good games, but not too often. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2194324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 well just calling it a day with the book and sticking her in the 20 woman squad sitting on an objective seems like a pretty good compromise Beef speaks truth! Pictures nao! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2194503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 If he wants to use Valkeryes in his army there is no SW fluff that suports it, unless he has sisters of battle assassisting him. It just looks disturbing with tits in a space marine power armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2194572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blckbuster Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 If he wants to use Valkeryes in his army there is no SW fluff that suports it, unless he has sisters of battle assassisting him. It just looks disturbing with tits in a space marine power armour. tits are not disturbing, tits are wonderful Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2194661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 If he wants to use Valkeryes in his army there is no SW fluff that suports it, unless he has sisters of battle assassisting him. It just looks disturbing with tits in a space marine power armour. tits are not disturbing, tits are wonderful And the fluff supports the Wolves feel the same ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2194671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 If he wants to use Valkeryes in his army there is no SW fluff that suports it, unless he has sisters of battle assassisting him. It just looks disturbing with tits in a space marine power armour. Well then I am Ok. Those Valkyries I made are not in Space Marine Power Armour. They are in Sisters of Battle Power Armor. Did you not realize I made them from a Sisters of Battle Seraphim Squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2194687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch015 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 what color did you use to paint/basecoat/highlight them with? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2195172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I used a 50/50 mix of shadow grey/space wolves grey. However I have started highlighting the girls with space wolves grey, so the minis look a little different. I have been told online, that I am not the best painter, but I am a pretty good converter. I am way better with greystuff and cutting up other models. You should see my Valkyrie/Battlewagon/Stompa Triple Changer... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2203061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravelybravesirrobin Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Wierdly enough I was just thinking about this idea today not a few moments ago. As cool as Valkyries/Shieldmaidens are there really isn't any kind of fluff justification you can make that works with GW's stuff. You pretty much just have to fudge it and hope people prefer the concept to the strict fluff. The best background explanation I could think of was; The sisters are from a planet that was saved by the Space Wolves from Chaos many centuries ago. Chaos forces had infiltrated much of the ecclesiarchy on that planet so many of the high ranking priests were dead and the populace was now mistustful of their church. In rebuilding their church it took on a distinctly fenrisian flavour worshipping the wolves themselves and seeing them as angelic warriors sent by the emperor and the purest form of his mighty arm. Maybe partly assisted by some wolf priests and rune priests who stayed around long enough to share some sagas with the surviving planetary leaders. Some of these worshippers include the sisters from the original order on that planet who are also spellbound by the imagery of the SW. Centuries later a great company begins fighting in the area of space near to said planet and are surprised to discover a new ecclisastic cult which takes in some of the fenrisian myths and traditions fighting as uncalled for allies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2203413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Indeed. Thankfully everyone I play with prefer straight fun with things like that as long as it adheres to the rules, and not let fluff ruin the fun. (No offense meant to those who think fluff is the most important) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2203675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Wierdly enough I was just thinking about this idea today not a few moments ago. As cool as Valkyries/Shieldmaidens are there really isn't any kind of fluff justification you can make that works with GW's stuff. You pretty much just have to fudge it and hope people prefer the concept to the strict fluff. The best background explanation I could think of was; The sisters are from a planet that was saved by the Space Wolves from Chaos many centuries ago. Chaos forces had infiltrated much of the ecclesiarchy on that planet so many of the high ranking priests were dead and the populace was now mistustful of their church. In rebuilding their church it took on a distinctly fenrisian flavour worshipping the wolves themselves and seeing them as angelic warriors sent by the emperor and the purest form of his mighty arm. Maybe partly assisted by some wolf priests and rune priests who stayed around long enough to share some sagas with the surviving planetary leaders. Some of these worshippers include the sisters from the original order on that planet who are also spellbound by the imagery of the SW. Centuries later a great company begins fighting in the area of space near to said planet and are surprised to discover a new ecclisastic cult which takes in some of the fenrisian myths and traditions fighting as uncalled for allies. Yeah the background fluff doesn't give you any room for something like this, but your idea would help a lot. Fluff gets in the way a lot when it comes to modeling, but it has its purpose. For me, the only justification I needed, was the Norse theme and look that the Space Wolves have. Thats all I need to justify the model. It may not be enough for some people, but to each their own. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2204132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Enough talk get some pictures up already Agreed! :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183759-seraphim-valkyries/page/2/#findComment-2204185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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