Chaos Sisters

[D3athwolf]

Hey All,

Ive played chaos for about two years noe but have never really played much of Slaanesh so i'm starting a SoB CSM army ive got a few models test painted already hopefully i be able to post them soon. Thoughts and comments?

[robertsjf]

1st question: Why slaaneshi SoB and not Nurgle or Khorne or Tzeentch?

[D3athwolf]

well i already have a khorne army... and a tzzentch one... and my other friend is wanting to do a nurgle army. so that leaves only slannesh i may add some plague marines represented by drug-addled sisters later but for now its noise marines

[D3athwolf]

Heres a test scheme using the painter on this site

 

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss120/daemon_04/chaossisterphp.jpg

[Grey Mage]

Hey All,

Ive played chaos for about two years noe but have never really played much of Slaanesh so i'm starting a SoB CSM army ive got a few models test painted already hopefully i be able to post them soon. Thoughts and comments?

1 Comment: You are aware that in the fluff only one sister of battle has ever fallen to chaos, right?

 

As long as your cool with that, enjoy.

[aeroplane]

Fluff be damned. I LOVE the idea, and think that it will look great when complete!!!!!!

[D3athwolf]

im kinda running off the idea that there's a pretty good chance that slaanesh you figure out a way to make female space marines to just <deleted> with stuff... and i need an excuse to paint purple and gold

[Grey Mage]

im kinda running off the idea that there's a pretty good chance that slaanesh you figure out a way to make female space marines to just <deleted> with stuff... and i need an excuse to paint purple and gold

*shrugs* fair enough, I just figured you should have a heads up.

[Messanger of Death]

Hey All,

Ive played chaos for about two years noe but have never really played much of Slaanesh so i'm starting a SoB CSM army ive got a few models test painted already hopefully i be able to post them soon. Thoughts and comments?

1 Comment: You are aware that in the fluff only one sister of battle has ever fallen to chaos, right?

 

As long as your cool with that, enjoy.

No... the background information only mentions one Sisters of Battle falling to chaos. There is even an old article in white dwarf which showed a Chaos army with fallen Sisters of Battle. And there is always the argument that the truth has been covered up by the Ecclesiarchy and that countless members of the Adepta Sororitas have fallen to chaos.

 

Messanger

[jlmb_123]

My major problem is that it's so obvious. "Oh look, the god of carnal lust on one side, and some oh-so high and mighty nuns on the other. What would be cool here?" #cogs whir#

 

I've always thought that Slaaneshi Sisters of Battle are the Warhammer equivalent of nuns in pornography: it's fanboy temptation. If you want to do a female Slaaneshi army, why not try mixing Daemonettes, Dark Elves and Dark Eldar with the Chaos Space Marine range?

[Messanger of Death]

It is easy to justify why a convert or several squads of Sisters of Battle have turned from the light of the Emperor to one of the Chaos gods... Slaanesh being the most popular.

 

1. Over several decades the beliefs of the convert have changed so that they view all imperial citizens to have fallen from the Emperor and need to be purged. There actions result in them being wiped out except for a few hundred who feeling betrayed by the Emperor turn to Chaos. Several of them turn to the Cult of Slaanesh.

 

2. Rather then the belief that all imperial citizens have fallen they believe they have fallen and start to punish their sins. They become very zealous in this fashion using electro-whips, shock collars and other forms of punishment... both physical and mental/social. These rituals become apart of the Convert and for many generations goes unnoticed and even encouraged by outsiders. However, the arrival of a very radial/puritan Inquisitor sees these actions as chaotic and decides to purge them. A few hundred escape and to survive turn to chaos; specifically Slaanesh who promises power and revenge.

 

3. A crusade a few hundred years ago was undertaken to free a system or planet from the taint of Chaos. During this battle a preacher/saint emerges who turns the tide of battle in the favour of the Imperial forces with his/her words boosting moral. However, during the crusade a system/planet wide storm engulfs it trapping everyone. During the storm the words of faith of the preacher/saint become lies and through the use of pyschic powers slowly turns the Imperial forces against each other. A few remaining Sisters of Battle and other imperial forces break their oaths and join the chaos forces and enjoy the orgies of killing and other depraved things that take place. Edit - once the storm lifts the Cult of Slaanesh followers, made up of offspring from the original followers, are lead out by the preacher/saint who turns out to be a Daemon/Daemonette. Alternatively, time within the warp storm goes much slower so what was 100 of years outside was actually days inside.

 

4. Scholars of the Adepta Sororitas find several tainted manuscripts that speak of untold power and pleasures. The taint of the artifacts corrupt them and they slowly work their way through the leadership of the Convert. Eventually they have turned several prominent members to their cult of wisdom (to gain power and pleasure). They set in motion to open up a portal to their god known as She Who Thirsts. Unknowing to them they release daemonettes and other warp entities that assault the Convert killing many as well as possessing many more. Some escape being possessed and become leaders and elite troops while those possessed fall into orgies or go mad with the whispers of power and pleasure. Others who become possessed give in fully and rise to positions of power and influence. Lots of potential to count as here with Arco-flagellations and Penitent Engines representing those possessed.

 

5. A Space Marine chapter (doesn't matter which one, can go unnamed) responds to a distress signal from a pilgrim world. On arrival they find that daemons and daemonettes as well as cultists are in an orgy of blood shed and depravity. A small force of Sisters of Battle are also on the planet trying to protect as many of the helpless pilgrims as possible. During the defence several groups of the Space Marines and Sisters of Battle turn on those they protect as well as their brothers and sisters'. Why they did this is unclear although scholars have found tainted manuscripts on both the Chapter planet and the Convert that are linked and speak of foul acts of depravity. Now you get to paint both Chaos Space Marines, Sisters of Battle and Daemonettes.

 

Cheers, Messanger

 

If you want to do a female Slaaneshi army, why not try mixing Daemonettes, Dark Elves and Dark Eldar with the Chaos Space Marine range?

I'm doing that for my girlfriend... she picks the miniatures she likes and i figure out how to do count-as with them. But this isn't what D3ath Wolf wants to do and if done properly they will be a great sight to behold.

Edited November 4, 2009 by Messanger of Death

[hummus]

its an ok idea, but some of your opponents may think your a bit of a pervert

[Piousservant]

its an ok idea, but some of your opponents may think your a bit of a pervert

 

That goes with being a Slaaneshi player anyway, doesn't it? :)

[D3athwolf]

We'll see what happens. so far im really liking the way the first couple miniatures are turning out. and i am planning on using the a dark elf sorceress for one of this army's HQs its just damned hard to add armor onto it but i should have some photos of a Aspiring Champion and two noise marines w/ sonic blasters up later today haven't quite got it all down yet but i can only improve. i do have a question though does anyone know how big a saint celetine model is? i'm debating either using one for a DP or Chaos lord depending on the size

 

P.S. thx Messenger for the fluff ideas everything can be explained by writing your own fluff

Edited November 4, 2009 by D3athwolf

[robertsjf]

its an ok idea, but some of your opponents may think your a bit of a pervert

 

That goes with being a Slaaneshi player anyway, doesn't it? :mellow:

 

Yeah but SoB going Slaanesh is so boring. I mean, when did boobies=slaanesh? Sure, you had the daemonettes that had like 6 of them so I can understand the confusion, whatever. Just be sure to sculpt moar 8008135 on the SoB minis....

[D3athwolf]

you may just get your wish maybe just for an HQ im thinking. the troop aren't quite THAT mutated yet.

[robertsjf]

I'd like to see that.

[D3athwolf]

As promised here are the test models

 

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss120/daemon_04/_DSC8427.jpg

 

Noise Marine w/ sonic blaster

 

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss120/daemon_04/_DSC8425.jpg

 

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss120/daemon_04/_DSC8423.jpg

and the Noise Champion

 

im thinking that the noise equipment may need some work and the colors could be a bit cleaner but overall im happy with the way this is turning out so far.

robertsjf the sorceress now has "moar 800135" the green stuff is curing as i type i think you'll be pleased

 

comments? ideas?

[ShotgunFacelift]

Test models look pretty good, but a bit to Dark Eldar'ish for my tastes.

[Lord_Caerolion]

For all those saying Sisters will never fall to Chaos, who says they have to recognise that they've fallen? Many Chaos cults don't recognize what's happened to them, and they think they're still loyal, with the commanders possibly understanding what they've done. Instead of typing it all out again, I'll simply quote the last time I've explained how it could work:

Easy way for them to fall: Pain.

A Sisterhood Order grows that preaches that the only correct way to commune with the Emperor is through flagellation and self-mortification. Originally, this is quite "harmless", mere scourges and whips, fasting and the like. Eventually though, along comes a very hardline Sister, who takes the doctrine further, in order to communicate better with the Emperor. This Sister comes to reach a high-standing position within the Order.

Over time, the mortification becomes ever more extreme, with the prayer itself becoming secondary to giving yourself a more and more extreme punishment. With this ideological change, their image of the Emperor changes with it. Originally, he's the widely accepted He-On-Terra. Later, he has become a cruel master, caring only for the extremes of punishment his worshippers subject themselves to. The Mutant, the Witch and the Daemon are all better than the enemy that the Sisters are trying to rid themselves of, the Enemy Within.

 

Remember, not every Chaos Cult actually realises what it has become, except perhaps for the most senior members of the Cult. To everyone in this Sisterhood Order, they are puritan Emperor-worshippers. Extreme, yes, but they need to be extreme to attract the distant gaze of He-On-Terra. Only the most senior ranks understand the true change they have undergone, and while they may not understand it as deeply as a full-blown, openly-worshipping Chaos cult, they still relish what they have become.

[Tsuden]

A really cool example of Fallen SoB imo is the Daemonifuge comic that Kev Walker did. Can't remember if the sisters actual fell to slaanesh or just had their bodies possessed by daemonettes, pretty sure there was one sister that was fully tainted that was trying to interogate the main character. Either way its fantastic source material to work off for what you wanna do, I've been considering converting a squad of sisters based off the comic to run as allies to my traitor guard.

[Walter Payton]

Hey All,

Ive played chaos for about two years noe but have never really played much of Slaanesh so i'm starting a SoB CSM army ive got a few models test painted already hopefully i be able to post them soon. Thoughts and comments?

1 Comment: You are aware that in the fluff only one sister of battle has ever fallen to chaos, right?

 

As long as your cool with that, enjoy.

 

Not necessarily true. In The Traitor's Hand Cain meets an entire mission of sisters (the bricks himself and runs away :P ) and in Daemonifuge a sister is seduced by a corrupted navigator. This means there is a canon conflict, and as long as there is ambiguity, you can do it. Desides, maybe they are just warrior women wearing captured armour? Whatever floats you're boat, do it!

[hummus]

theres also the invitation by dan abnett about a fallen sister too

[Grand Master Tyrak]

For all those saying Sisters will never fall to Chaos, who says they have to recognise that they've fallen? Many Chaos cults don't recognize what's happened to them, and they think they're still loyal, with the commanders possibly understanding what they've done.

 

Who says the Chaos Gods have to recognise that they're inadvertently serving the Emperor before it comes true? Nothing, but if we start entertaining theories like that we come to only three possible solutions:

 

1) Selective reading of fluff - keep the bits you want and edit out the bits you don't want, allowing the 40k universe to become coherent.

2) The entirety of the 40k universe is set in the warp, which means it can be inherently contradictory and entirely coherent at the same time.

3) Tzeentch is the only one who can unravel the 40k universe.

 

Speculation is still speculation, even if you spell it as 'fact'. Perhaps it's best to take RAW as far as possible before switching to RAI possibilities. ;)

 

A really cool example of Fallen SoB imo is the Daemonifuge comic that Kev Walker did. Can't remember if the sisters actual fell to slaanesh or just had their bodies possessed by daemonettes, pretty sure there was one sister that was fully tainted that was trying to interogate the main character.

 

Quite a few fell to Slaanesh, IIRC. Then again, Ephrael Stern wouldn't have been a very good main character if all the Sisters were resisting Chaos, now would she? :)

[Walter Payton]

I've done some Khorne sisters, and some Slaaneshi ones. I actually think that Khorne fits them better. I shall do you a diagram:

 

http://www.minivault.com/images/ZhuforThumb.jpg

Above: Utterly psychopathic killing machine, lives only to slay in the name of its god, obsessed with killing unbelievers, and a single type of weaponry (chainaxes)

http://pds6.egloos.com/pds/200710/08/00/e0068700_4708fe4c0592a.jpg

Above: Utterly psychopathic killing machine, lives only to slay in the name of its god, obsessed with killing unbelievers, and a single type of weaponry (flamers)

 

 

That is Khorne

And now Slaanesh

http://img.war-europe.com/syndic_img/specialfeat/ChaosGuide/Slaanesh.jpg

Above: Being that exists solely for emotional, physical, and (in the minds of an irritating minority who give us Slaanesh players a bad name) sexual gratification. Will go to any lengths to experience sensation.

http://pds6.egloos.com/pds/200710/08/00/e0068700_4708fe4c0592a.jpg

Above: Being that shuns worldly possesions and dedicates their existence to purity and worship. Celibate, in addition to being an utterly psychopathic killing machine, lives only to slay in the name of its god, obsessed with killing unbelievers, and a single type of weaponry (flamers).

 

Now you tell me which one fits more