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[wiplash]

hi guys help please...

 

1. if a wolf guard squad takes a LR transport, say a LRR :) thats legal i know it counts as a dedicated transport. but say if this wolf guard squad was made of 3 men and 2 of them went off to be squad leaders. Leaving one WG in a land raider! (pimpage)

so would that one lonly wolf guard be able to lead a squad (say a 15 man strong bloodclaw squad) and extend the dedicated LR to their squad?

 

2. Njals bird thing, nightwing(?) it says "in the assault phase a single model in base contact with Njal (chosen by owning player) suffers D3 S3 hits...."

firstly is the "owning player" the person who owns Njal, or the person who owns the opposing squad?

secondly will it be this specific model that is removed? or can the opposing player remove any model from the unit as per usual?

for example: Njal is in base contact with 1 member of the squad which just so happens to be the leader or character etc. if by some miracle that person is killed by nightwing does that leader specifically have to be removed from play or can the opposing player take anyone from the squad?

 

3. wolf guard cant but can characters atach themselves to a fenrisian wolves squad?

 

cheers guys

[Jonny Wolf]

Whip,

 

1. Sounds legal to me.

 

2. Good question: no idea.

 

3. Yep.

[Ullr Direfang]

1. I would say yes

 

2. You choose the guy and all attacks from Nightwing are on that model, at least that is the way I use it,

 

3. i believe they can

[stinkenheim]

1- if i understand your question properly, and apologies if i don't, you are asking if a unit with attatched wolf guard can be deployed in the dedicated transport of the wolf guard squad. i'm going to buck the trend and say no personally. Simple because when they are attatched to a squad wolf guard are treated as another member of it. therefore the BC squad (in this example) cannot start embarked in the vehicle even though they have a wolf guard attatched. there is nothing stopping them getting in in turn 1 though, they just can't start in it.

 

2- i read this as it being your choice of opponent, as choosers (and by extension nightwing) are attuned to the user its not too hard to imagine njall instructing nightwing to peck one guy while he krumps another.

 

3- again you are correct, as it isn't a unit specifically mentioned under the WG entry as one they can join then only models with the IC rule can.

[Valerian]

For #2 it's the owning player of the enemy model (I.e. your opponent), not the owning player of Njal. If that model becomes a casualty, then that model is removed, not another from the same unit.

 

V

[Wolflordhicks]

1- if i understand your question properly, and apologies if i don't, you are asking if a unit with attatched wolf guard can be deployed in the dedicated transport of the wolf guard squad. i'm going to buck the trend and say no personally. Simple because when they are attatched to a squad wolf guard are treated as another member of it. therefore the BC squad (in this example) cannot start embarked in the vehicle even though they have a wolf guard attatched. there is nothing stopping them getting in in turn 1 though, they just can't start in it.

 

2- i read this as it being your choice of opponent, as choosers (and by extension nightwing) are attuned to the user its not too hard to imagine njall instructing nightwing to peck one guy while he krumps another.

 

3- again you are correct, as it isn't a unit specifically mentioned under the WG entry as one they can join then only models with the IC rule can.

 

For #1

I agree they can get into the LR in the first turn but not star in it, now another question in th same way, If the WG purchase a drop pod and are then split into squads does the drop pod deploy empty?

[Oldenhaller]

1 : The LRR is a transport option for the Wolf Guard squad. If that squad becomes pack leaders then they are no longer a squad so no, no other unit would be able to start in it as it is not thier dedicated transport. This has come up a couple of time no so shall addd it to the list of FAQ

 

2 : Part 1 : I'd say it's the owning player of Njal rather than the opponent. It'd be too odd for him to disctate where the attacks go (please attack my T5 plague marine rather than the T3 guard sargeant) and also as the clarification comes after Njal rather than the opponent's models.

Part 2 : As it's a specified model which is taking the damage there's no chance of it bouncing onto someone else.

 

3 : Yes there's no restriction on IC's doing so other than they'll slow them down if they're not on a Thunderwolf mount

 

~O

[wiplash]

1 : The LRR is a transport option for the Wolf Guard squad. If that squad becomes pack leaders then they are no longer a squad so no, no other unit would be able to start in it as it is not thier dedicated transport. This has come up a couple of time no so shall addd it to the list of FAQ

 

2 : Part 1 : I'd say it's the owning player of Njal rather than the opponent. It'd be too odd for him to disctate where the attacks go (please attack my T5 plague marine rather than the T3 guard sargeant) and also as the clarification comes after Njal rather than the opponent's models.

Part 2 : As it's a specified model which is taking the damage there's no chance of it bouncing onto someone else.

 

3 : Yes there's no restriction on IC's doing so other than they'll slow them down if they're not on a Thunderwolf mount

 

~O

 

i think i agree with everything said here :)

but with the Land raider...

as it is a dedicated transport, which cant be dedicated to a squad (although rules wise it still is)

would this mean that it wouldnt count toward force organiusation slots? as it is a dedicated transport

so in actual fact you could take an extra land raider without taking up a slot?

[stinkenheim]

yes, at the time of purchase it was dedicated to the wolf guard squad. during deployment if all the wolf guard are attatched to other units (so no WG squad) it is still deployed at the same time as other elites.

as a dedicated transport for the wolf guard pack it is in effect an elite choice regardless of whether there is a wolf guard unit for it to transport during the game (wolf guard + land raider = 1 elite choice on FOC)

[Valerian]

2 : Part 1 : I'd say it's the owning player of Njal rather than the opponent. It'd be too odd for him to disctate where the attacks go (please attack my T5 plague marine rather than the T3 guard sargeant) and also as the clarification comes after Njal rather than the opponent's models.

 

 

~O

 

O,

 

No, its the owning player of the target unit, not Njal (otherwise it would have said something to the effect of "Njal can select a single enemy model in base contact...etc."). The language used is very similar to that used in the allocating wounding hits section of the main rules.

 

V

[wiplash]

2 : Part 1 : I'd say it's the owning player of Njal rather than the opponent. It'd be too odd for him to disctate where the attacks go (please attack my T5 plague marine rather than the T3 guard sargeant) and also as the clarification comes after Njal rather than the opponent's models.

 

 

~O

 

O,

 

No, its the owning player of the target unit, not Njal (otherwise it would have said something to the effect of "Njal can select a single enemy model in base contact...etc."). The language used is very similar to that used in the allocating wounding hits section of the main rules.

 

V

 

after re-reading the segment i'm in agreement with you valerian :P

[Oldenhaller]

lol...so fickle

 

I'm inclined to agree after reading the rest of the quote - "...as nightwing flies down to peck out thier eyes" which qualifies the statement aa little more in favour of the controller of the unit picking who's hit

 

crazy crazy 40k rules ;)

 

~O