Prot Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Unfortunately I took a whole slew of pics of Huron but they are terrible pics due to the suckage level of my camera being about a 9.5 on the crappy scale. In fact these are the only two pics that turned out at all. So these are my only complete guys. I have 5 test figs that I didn't like, and I finally settled on this recipe for the reds/highlights, golds, etc. I am really happy with Huron but you can't see any of the skull work or bionic eye stuff. It's too bad really, but at least you get the idea. This squad is part of my Wolves defector squad. I was basing a squad on Wolves (MoK) and a squad based on defector Ultra (MoS). To those of you who said Ultra would never defect, all I have to say is... yea, it just happened. Muhahahaha. :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGunfire Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 The colors look spot on to me as far as the Corsairs' heraldry. I will suggest toning the lighting down in whatever area you're photographing down some so you don't wash out the details of the models. Just my two credits worth. Good job overall though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2173194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Good photos or not, I know these models possess the same effort and quality you've always put into your models. I particularly like your choice of bits, as they are very fitting for a roaming band of Red Corsair warriors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2173248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Lookin good! ;) Always glad to see Corsairs. I'll debate the Ultramarines thing just because: In 600 years the Ultramarines have had to punish only 1 guy, and he was just an idiot. At some point or other and Ultra or two might've gone Chaos, but I'm almost certain they'd be Malalite/Khornate 1st, Tzeentch 2nd, Slaanesh 3rd and Nurgle 4th. If they fall to Chaos to be "better" at what they are (sort of), Khorne because he's the god of martial skill and prowess. Probably the least chaotic god in all aspects except the Khorne Berzerkers who are total crazy and give him a reputation for being a frothing mad man. If they turn to Chaos because they snapped and couldn't stand being what they were any more, then Malal. As the god of fighting authority, rules, and oppression I could see a Ultramarine who has gotten tired of the Codex Astartes eventually turning to Malal. Rare is the Ultramarine I could see as Slaaneshish. Maybe Sicarius... I can't even begin to imagine a Nurgle Ultramarine's reasoning. The Mortifactors drinking blood is distasteful to the Ultramarines. Nurgle is probably ^1000 worse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2173362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 At some point or other and Ultra or two might've gone Chaos, but I'm almost certain they'd be Malalite/Khornate 1st, Tzeentch 2nd, Slaanesh 3rd and Nurgle 4th. As said in the Grey Knight Dex, they are the only Chapter to never lose a brother to Chaos. That implies that every other Chapter has. OP. Nice models, any chance of individual close ups, especially the one with the wolf on his chest? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2173500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Thanks a lot guys. Like I said, it took 5 test figs to get these in the basic shades -I- wanted. I was ready to give up. I do find multi-coloured armour a whole new challenge to paint. Oddly enough I'm working on a squad of Imperial Fists, but they are looking like yellow crud. A -very- different painting technique than I'm used to. I may have to go back to these guys (Corsairs) because if the Fists don't work out, I think this is the first Marine type chapter I've painted in a while that doesn't make me want to hurl my paints in the garbage. As far as the pictures... I took about a dozen, and these are the only two that kind of turned out. I am going to take more in a different setting. I tried not to use a flash and I had a ton of light, but it didn't work. Plus the 'macro' feature on my camera just isn't really that good. I'll take more, but thanks for looking. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2173655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Nice job Prot, Flash photo qualities aside and by the looks of it, the work on the metal (gold in particular) really deserves a proper photo. Other than that I like the basework, the cyan topknot and the 'mailbox red' armour, I expect them to be much darker in real life. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2173657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garou24 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Those look great! Keep it up, you will have a fantastic looking army in no time. I really like the detail and bits. Each guy looks unique. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2173699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corbulo Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I've seen these first hand and the pics don't do the figs justice. Huron looks awesome and the squad is very well done. Traitorous Ultras and Space Wolves look great as Red Corsairs, but when you add a Blood Angel (and I know it's probably only a matter of time) then I hope you use a fancy one for your conversion :P Corb Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2173729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJB Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I like them, especially Huron - the pallid skin tone on the Wolf is superb There is a Red Corsair short story in the novel "Into the Maelstrom" (the story is called Into the Maelstrom incidentally...) and Huron's chosen champion of Khorne is Crassus the renegade Ultramarine, so it has been mentioned in previous novels... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2173959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Nice work Prot! The RC's are looking proper. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2174003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I like them, especially Huron - the pallid skin tone on the Wolf is superb There is a Red Corsair short story in the novel "Into the Maelstrom" (the story is called Into the Maelstrom incidentally...) and Huron's chosen champion of Khorne is Crassus the renegade Ultramarine, so it has been mentioned in previous novels... :lol: See! Told ya they'd follow Khorne ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2174443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravenguild Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Those are some beautiful red corsairs Prot! I can't wait to see follow ups. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2174476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Thanks guys. @Nihm, funny I actually used the gold recipe they laid out the details for in that White Dwarf way back when Huron was coming out. I remember way back that you didn't care for how they did the gold. It could be my mixture is a bit different. But I actually really like that gold recipe because while it's still highlighted, no ink washing! And I like that. I like them, especially Huron - the pallid skin tone on the Wolf is superb There is a Red Corsair short story in the novel "Into the Maelstrom" (the story is called Into the Maelstrom incidentally...) and Huron's chosen champion of Khorne is Crassus the renegade Ultramarine, so it has been mentioned in previous novels... :lol: I just went through all the Black Library books I own from past and present, and I can't find that one. The only real 'Huron' story I've read is in Heroes of the Space Marines. It's supposed to be about Honsou of the Iron Warriors, but to me... Huron totally stole the spotlight. ;) I will look for that book/story somewhere. There's so little on Huron out there. @Corbulo, Thanks buddy. As you know I pained over doing Red Corsairs for months with failed experiment after failed experiment. I discovered multicoloured armour is a total pain in the warp to paint. And I tried to find a happy medium between 'time spent painting a fig' vs. 'acceptable table top quality'. I will take more pics this weekend. As some of you noted, they're pretty bad. I've discovered my camera's 'Macro' doesn't let me zoom in and I can't get within... 18" of a fig so I'll try again. I want to do some more Corairs with new wolves bitz, and some Dark Angels bitz... heck I just thought of doing a White Scars Corsair squadron! That would be a cool bike squad!. ;) Thanks for the kind words guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2174807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 It's worth noting that the short-story can be found in both Into the Maelstrom and Let the Galaxy Burn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2174825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ah! That's great news, as I do own Let the Galaxy Burn. Thanks Nihm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2174949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynnean Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 At some point or other and Ultra or two might've gone Chaos, but I'm almost certain they'd be Malalite/Khornate 1st, Tzeentch 2nd, Slaanesh 3rd and Nurgle 4th. As said in the Grey Knight Dex, they are the only Chapter to never lose a brother to Chaos. That implies that every other Chapter has. OP. Nice models, any chance of individual close ups, especially the one with the wolf on his chest? not every chapter..... Exorcists are all, under the watching eye of the Inquisition, possessed by a daemon, but don't fall to chaos, and no recorded Blood Angels has ever fell.... their Black Rage prevents that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2175088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Very crisp paint jobs you got there. Nice. Anyways, if you have Ultramarine renegades, I'd have them defect to Slaanesh. After all, their greatest sins are their pride and their arrogance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2175150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Very crisp paint jobs you got there. Nice. Anyways, if you have Ultramarine renegades, I'd have them defect to Slaanesh. After all, their greatest sins are their pride and their arrogance. Thanks. And actually that's what I'm planning with the Ultra Renegades... Slaanesh. Their arrogance borders on decadence as far as I'm concerned. ;) The point being I want to find a spot for all that wish to join Huron in 'Ending the Slavery to the False God'. :D The problem with Ultra is finding 'Ultra' bits that can blend with Chaos bitz. Not much out there I'm afraid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2175232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Get the metal Ultramarine pad set. Get lots of Commander kits for bling. Horde lots of bling. Smurfs like bling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2175478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega_marines Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Get the metal Ultramarine pad set. Get lots of Commander kits for bling. Horde lots of bling. Smurfs like bling. Misconception for the fail... Anyways, it would all depend on the individual. A marine can fall simply because of how his mind is. Not everyone is the same. Though each marine functions in a unit, they are each very different, like normal people. An Ultramarine could fall to Slaanesh because he believes he's better at something than others, and then that pride grows into full blown arrogance and so on. Khorne because the will of the warrior becomes to closely linked to Khorne's ideals and the marine falls deeper and deeper into his madness before finally realizing he fights for mighty Khorne. Nurgle perhaps by just the fact the marine can only see the galaxy ending in death, and wants to live on and on, and never die. That could easily lead down the dark road of father Nurgle. Tzeentch because a marine possibly believes he knows the wills or paths of others, or perhaps he ponders to many things that would make the human mind explode. Anything is possible with the Gods, don't just limit your idea of Marines being "HURP DURP COOKIE CUTTER". They're intelligent, and all equally different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2175503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Not only are they all different, but the Ultramarines in particular are probably the least likely to be arrogant. Most of them are fairly humble and reverent warriors trying to uphold the honor of the Chapter and constantly looking up to their legendary heroes (Guilliman, Invictus, Calgar, etc). The most arrogant Ultramarines I can think of are Sicarius, because he constantly seeks personal glory and is damn sure he can get it, and Ventris, because he thought he knew better than the Codex Astartes. Other than them (and I'd say Ventrs is iffy) there's no examples of arrogant Ultramarines. Arrogance is more of a Space Wolf/Dark Angel thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2175516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bob Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Not only are they all different, but the Ultramarines in particular are probably the least likely to be arrogant. Most of them are fairly humble and reverent warriors trying to uphold the honor of the Chapter and constantly looking up to their legendary heroes (Guilliman, Invictus, Calgar, etc). The most arrogant Ultramarines I can think of are Sicarius, because he constantly seeks personal glory and is damn sure he can get it, and Ventris, because he thought he knew better than the Codex Astartes. Other than them (and I'd say Ventrs is iffy) there's no examples of arrogant Ultramarines. Arrogance is more of a Space Wolf/Dark Angel thing. I agree they aren't the most arrogant (that's defenitely the Emperor's Children), but I would say they're up there on the arrogance scale. Guilliman was known to show much jealousy and resentment towards Horus for being chosen as Warmaster instead of him. He thought he was a much better cantidate than Horus, and was not afraid to express it. The Ultramarines also look down upon most chapters that do not obey the Codex Astartes as religiously as they do (pretty much no-one). They view people that don't as lesser than themselves. I'd say that's pretty arrogant. However, back on topic. These miniatures are very nice, the paints are nicely thinned, and the red is very stark against the black. However, I would like to see a little more highlighting on the black, but that could just be the pictures. Also, kudos for taking the pictures on a scenic piece of terrain, it adds alot of character to the picture. Edit: ALSO, I don't know if you noticed but you have an Aquilla on one of those marines, which is a big no-no as far as Chaos goes. Cheers - Darth Bob Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2175530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mega_marines Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Aquila's are fine for traitors as long as they're defaced, or no longer have the heads of the two headed Aquila attached. They could still represent the Angels of Death theme which is even more disturbing when Renegades and traitors utilize it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2175593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 Aquila's are fine for traitors as long as they're defaced, or no longer have the heads of the two headed Aquila attached. They could still represent the Angels of Death theme which is even more disturbing when Renegades and traitors utilize it. Yes, that was my thinking as I came up with these models. I wanted to show some of the original chapter, or imperial badging, but I didn't want it to be completely unaltered. Basically if you take the Wolve srg. in the squad, I had the chest Wolf as black, but it just didn't pop enough, so I went back to a tarnished gold. War Wolves I thought... a token name for traitor Wolves that follow Huron...or my Huron anyway. The chest eagle from that Wolves set is perfect, because it kind of looks like the head of the eagle was defaced for a chaos stone or something. I didn't want to turn this into an off topic thread about why/why not certain chapters would swap allegiances, but I appreciate the feedback. :jaw: Actually I had a big thread going in Chaos Ascendant (I know most of you fine upstanding chaps would never go there!) and it got a little heated but at the end of the day we have live with our own armies. It's a fun modeling concept anyway... it makes Corsairs stand out in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183815-prots-red-corsairs-finally/#findComment-2175985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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