TheOtakuGundam Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Right now i am gonna enter the single and squad categories and possibly the vehicle category. First real paint contest, my only other was a 1-hour paint contest. here are my ideas: Single model: Sicarius Telion My grey knights grand master Single squad: Grey knights squad Sternguard (w/ sicarius) Terminator squad. Vehicle (not sure if im gonna do this one) A dreadnought (i have 3) /ironclad Land raider Rhino any C&C welcome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtakuGundam Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 UPDATE: got to painting Telion. i like the way his colors flow. very messy though. sorry. [http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad154/GMIcaros/IMG_0466.jpg http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/ad154/GMIcaros/IMG_0460.jpg any suggestions on how to make him better? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2174435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Chaos_Brute Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Strip all that paint and hand undercoat him black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2174497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Strip all that paint and hand undercoat him black. Ah, a member of the Cult of Black Primer! Hail, brother! The debate between the Cults of White and Black primers are always great. :D As for actual feedback, it's a little early to tell. ICB is onto somrhting though. You're going to want to give him a wash or some shading in a darker color blue, to make the recesses pop. But, a true verdict has to wait til you've got some more work done on him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2174897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtakuGundam Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 thanks for the tips, iv'e never really washed a model before, but this is my "learning" model. for a wash you take a darker shade of the basecoat and water it down or use a (gw) ink/wash in the recesses of the basecoat right? for the undercoat, i usually basecoat black but my regular marines have white armour, so i tried white at the suggestion of one of the veterans of my gaming club and it has worked out pretty well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2174995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Chaos_Brute Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Water down your paint as well to get smoother coats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2175244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ah, Nate, I have taught you so well... Yes, I would agree (there's a joke about me that if I was to paint a White Scars army, I'd undercoat it black). Black just seems to deepen the shades and, since highlighting is what I prefer to do, it lends a glowy look to your finished product. And I'd suggest painting the undercoat by hand, not with primer. It is worth it in the end. It ain't the "Grim DARKness of the far future" for nothing, after all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2175357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrible_Trygon Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 White only really works for a undercoat if you intend to use a very wet palette. Watered down paints, inks and washes. The idea is that the colour is brought alive by the undercoat. But if you are just layering, then a black undercoat is good enough, and saves time. As for painting white on black, two golden words; FORTRESS GREY. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2175453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Chaos_Brute Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ah, Nate, I have taught you so well... Yes, I would agree (there's a joke about me that if I was to paint a White Scars army, I'd undercoat it black). Black just seems to deepen the shades and, since highlighting is what I prefer to do, it lends a glowy look to your finished product. And I'd suggest painting the undercoat by hand, not with primer. It is worth it in the end. It ain't the "Grim DARKness of the far future" for nothing, after all Yeah, the undercoat is the only good part of my painting :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2175477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks333 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 or you can just do that manually while mixing colours..... black does affect colour but it changes how you have to paint, its a different way to painting than over white please dont start the black vs white debates....its already quite clear what they both do.... hand priming is not really a big deal....spray primers work fine, if you find GWs now sucks, try P3s, itts very good Alex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2175496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sha'son Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 or you can just do that manually while mixing colours..... black does affect colour but it changes how you have to paint, its a different way to painting than over white please dont start the black vs white debates....its already quite clear what they both do.... hand priming is not really a big deal....spray primers work fine, if you find GWs now sucks, try P3s, itts very good Alex Or you can try Duplicolor sandable primers. Same thing as the P3 stuff but about 1/2 the price. Get it at Kragen, Autozone, or Pep Boys Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183890-golden-bolter-wips-motvation/#findComment-2175650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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