Epididymidis Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Some time ago I started building and painting a Vindicator - awesome model by the way. :lol: I wanted to do something special with the huge siege shield and decided that it has to be something funny... or at least something some immature dudes would consider entertaining. :D Well, at first I came up with this. http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6724/schaufelsuckhorizx.jpg The Arm is magnetized a will probably be painted in Ultramarines Blue. ;) But somehow I don't like how it came out - it used to looked in my head. Still, I want to keep the evil-marine-annoys-the-mighty-vindicator-and-gets-overrun-idea but maybe I'll try a different 'grafitty'. Maybe something like this? http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4188/schaufelsmiliex.jpg Or this? http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4194/schaufelpeacex.jpg Or just a different angle? http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4336/schaufelsuckdiagx.jpg What do you think? Any further ideas highly appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I think you shouldn't do something like that at all, but that's personal preference. I just think that 40k can be fun, but Space Marines can't. If you want comedy marines, you should go totally crazy and make your whole army to fit with a certain theme (like Hello Kitty marines or something). Small not-so-funny-actually details like that just don't work with the whole setting and certainly not with Marines, and just look like half-baked attempts to scrounge some laughs. This seems more fitting with Orkz. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokkers Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 i, on the other hand, totally disagree with cathar. the 40k universe is what you make it. if you want to have you marines accidentally running each other over, thats fine. heck, i am even ok with female space marines (all you haters can just back off). as far as your conversion goes i would have a close look at some grafiti around your city and have a look at how the paint spreads as the paint hits the wall. the spatter you have in the first pic is good - but too large. pay particular attention to the work of taggers (wastrels one and all). their work tends to be far more hasty and so the spatter is more pronounced (and in this case, apropriate). good luck :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I like it, it reminds me of original 40k, back in the creative days, when marines could be silly/funny. I would maybe go with one of the classic 'Kil, Kil, Kil' or something as silly as 'AAaarrrgh!' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester_prince Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I think you shouldn't do something like that at all, but that's personal preference. I just think that 40k can be fun, but Space Marines can't. If you want comedy marines, you should go totally crazy and make your whole army to fit with a certain theme (like Hello Kitty marines or something). Small not-so-funny-actually details like that just don't work with the whole setting and certainly not with Marines, and just look like half-baked attempts to scrounge some laughs. This seems more fitting with Orkz. Hmmm in all honesty you couldnt be more wrong in my oppinion. I dont know how many people saw it but in warhammer world the heart and soul of 40k, they had a gigantic diorama of the seige of terra. They had two warlord titans and massive foces holding the gates. There was so much detail in the whole thing it would have taken me forever to see them all. BUT one thing I did notice were 3 tiney little milk bottles outside the emperors palace gates. It had me in hysterics. There is room for humour in 40k otherwise it becomes the same repetative garbage over and over and little subtle details like that are great fun. Which for one is why i think Orks fit into 40k so well they are the comic releif. I do agree that a spcae marines arm dosnt reall work, mabey he is right that marines are a bit too serious, personaly I would try a gretchin/grot arm or something similar, or some othjer race mabey the joke would work better. However I put my hot sister of battle rideing a bomb onto the side of my thunderhawk for the same comedy effect, people laugh so marines can be funny. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/ilivefordeath/GETSOME-2-1.jpg Or why not just go for a regular human arm and put like hippy bands on it and use you peace symbol, its sort of social commentary for the whole 40k universe and is kinda deep aswell as funny. As for the splatter try makeing ti finer, and make the drips different lengths. Ill try find an example. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGunfire Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I'm with jester_prince on this one. While the space marine arm may not work well, the grot arm would be perfect IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I dont know how many people saw it but in warhammer world the heart and soul of 40k, they had a gigantic diorama of the seige of terra. They had two warlord titans and massive foces holding the gates. There was so much detail in the whole thing it would have taken me forever to see them all. BUT one thing I did notice were 3 tiney little milk bottles outside the emperors palace gates. It had me in hysterics. That's a very different thing. I didn't say there was no humor allowed in 40k. Only reading through your post and thinking how that diorama would look like made me giggle a little. So unlike the OP's ideas, it is actually a funny thing, not schoolboy funny. I think that in 40k, you can do anything, as long as you do it in style. Once you drop to a level where you have Space Marines with sunglasses or random graffiti on a tank of soldiers known for how high they value their colors and composure, it gets silly. But as I said, it is a matter of personal preference. Every one values the hobby in a different way. I like the sinister setting of 40k, with all its grim-dark and over-sized gothic weapons, and a paint-job like that on a Vindicator would just ruin the game for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 None of these really fit, IMO. It's just not...Marine-esque. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Well....maybe Space Wolves........ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolniir Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Well....maybe Space Wolves........ the yellow would be urine then, would it not? @ OP: have you considered hazard stripes with 'danger' stenciled under the cannon? its serious, but sort of funny, and is a theme that can be applied to an army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiodome Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 if you must do this, i think the graffiti should say 'Death or Glory!' for obvious reasons. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordbrother Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yeah, Death or glory! That's as funny as it gets... On the subject on if marines should be silly/funny or not; Its your damn models do as you damn please! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberame Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 make it a space wolf blood claw arm, they are known for their pranks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2174998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtakuGundam Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 i would make the arm an ork arm and have it read something like: yous su..AARGGHHH! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epididymidis Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Thanks for the ideas. I don't take the hole game this serious especially fluff-wise. After all it's just a Game. :mellow: I think I'll change the arm. There schould be some ork parts around here somewhere... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epididymidis Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 sorry - double post Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Bloodhowl Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 For Cathar the Great: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *collapse on floor unconscious from lack of oxygen* As for the Siege Shield I agree with the idea of a Blood Claw or Ork arm with DEATH OR GLORY as the phrase. :mellow: ;) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 For Cathar the Great: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *collapse on floor unconscious from lack of oxygen* Oo So this is what happened to discussion culture. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Trajan Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 To keep with fluff and creative I would keep the arm as a space marine, but make it chaosy. Write something like "Chaos foreve" and put a splatter of blood where the r would be. Then you have your cheese without walking away from the 40k universe! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StratoKhan Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Marines in RT had a lot of graffiti on them, it doesn't wholly fit the current general background for them but that's fine. I just saw a thread where this guy used Tau bitz on his infantry and tanks, it doesn't really fit with established but it still looks quite nice. I think it's all a matter of context. If you just take an Ultramarine tank (for example) and add graffiti to it that detail might look out of place, but in a more RT or modern military inspired force it might just look better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I think everybody is missing the point here. It's not supposed to be "marine-esque." It's supposed to be silly. Bringing up the point of "this is too silly for SRS BZNZ Spehs Mareenz" is completely irrelevant. The poster didn't ask if you thought it was "too silly" for Space Marines, he asked for further ideas. Anyway, I personally like the "You Suck" at an angle at the end of the post. I think that would do the trick. What chapter are these guys going to be? If they're loyalists, maybe replacing the arm with a Chaos Marine arm? Or vice versa? Can't wait to see it done :) Cheers, -Kal Edit: I like the Death or Glory idea :D Made me chuckle. You could also write "Castle Aaaarrrgh" on it for a monty python reference ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaSmurf Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 well, i like it, even if it is not "fluffy"^^ its kinda funny and it adds a small story to the tank. i personally prefer the first thing you tried, but its just my opinion. in addition to that i think its painted nice, i could never paint something so small and so clean^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel of justice Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 depending how your greenstuff skills are you could try and greenstuff up a plush Garfield to stick on the shield and a set of Yosemite sam mudflats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ravensong Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 This would be perfect for angry marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshMullet Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 a few vespids caught on it? like bugs on a windscreen, or maybe tyranids. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183965-siege-shield-ideas/#findComment-2175456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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