le_tiss Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Good Morning / Afternoon / Evening :lol: So Bobman and myself fought out his 2nd battle with his new and improved wolves and my Deathwing and my 4th battle of 5th edition (I have been working myself into the ground during the credit crunch (a cereal my son likes B) ) and my hobby time has been playing WFB - High Elves (at least robes / skirts were involved). Forgive me if pts, abbreviations & memory are not exact! Deathwing: Belial - The hardest hittest Special Character GW have ever introduced ;) Lib - Term Arm etc Command Squad - Vet Serg - LC, Apoth - HF/PF, BannerBearer - SB/PF, 1xTH/SS, 1x SB/PF Deathwing Squad - Vet Serg - SB/PW, 1x AC/PF, 1x LC, 2x SB/PF Deathwing Squad - Vet Serg - SB/PW, 1x AC/PF, 1x LC, 2x SB/PF Ravenwing Bikes x6 - Vet Serg - PF/CCW, 2x Meltaguns, 3x BP/CCW Ravenwing Attack Bike - MM Ven Dread - PCannon, DCCW, HF, EX Arm - Drop Pod Land Raider Crusader - AC/MM/HB http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4595/hpim2051m.th.jpg http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/875/hpim2053.th.jpg http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/748/hpim2052d.th.jpg http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8362/hpim2056.th.jpg http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1561/hpim2054.th.jpg Right then I had thought about a Vindicator, no pod for the Dread, another DW squad and another Land Raider :o As you might notice since 4th edition I have dropped the 2 Pred's that I used to run. This will be the first time I have ever used a Land Raider and I have been playing since '87 :D . Bobs was running (from memory) an d I will differ to him on equipment when he come online next! Wolves: RunePriest - Term Arm SB/FW RunePriest - PowerArm, PW, BP Wolf Guard x5 - each one different - 1x WC, 1xPF/SS, 1xPW/SS, 1xSB/PW, 1xSB/PF Wolf Guardx1 - went with BloodClaws - Term Arm SB/PF Wolf Guardx1 - went with Grey hunters (PG's) - Cyclone ML, SB, PF Lone Wolf - Power Armour, SS, BP Blood Claws x13 - 1x BP/PF, the rest BP/CCW's Grey Hunters x10 - 2x Plasma Guns, 8x Bolter /BP/CCW :lol: - Razorback - TL LC Grey Hunters x10 - 2x Melta guns, 1xBP/PF - mounted in Rhino Pred - Autocannon (no sponsons!) Land Raider Crusader - AC/HB but no MM! (for Blood Claws) Apologises did not take pic of Bobs wolves - because my camera rebelled at the thought of taking pics of unwashed, hairy uncouth people - this obviously meant I could not take a pic of Bobs either :D Right then here is the battlefield but unfortunately for us Dan and Peter Snow were not available for commentary thus you will have to listen to me! http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/1737/hpim2029.th.jpg So before the main event we decided on our company champions to have a mud wrestling (oops!) a dual as honour dictated. Now then - Bobs won the last one when Belial got taken apart in 2 round by a Rob's Wolf lord (the fact this happen at a tournament and Bobs then beat me in the game also will have no impact in the way I write this report - no siree) Belial girded his loins (he is like the 6 million dollar man the amount of time we have re-built him!) and faced off against the Rune Priest in term Arm just over 12 inches apart, Bobs won the chance to go 1st or 2nd, he choose 1st and lashed out with some lighting based power which made me think that I should have taken the Lib into the challenge. A couple of saving throws later and Belial was unharmed except that his Moustache that he had been growing for the 'mo for movember charity event' was now burnt and blackened. This obviously angered Mr B as he fired his SB completely wide of the mark but helped as he charged into the RunePriest and chopped the rune priest into pedigree chum in 1 turn (he was thinking if any wolves came alone - he could throw them a bone B) ) Deployment & 1st couple of turns later Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobman Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yeah my Rune Preist sucked this game. First time I've used one and I'm not sure what to do with him. Not upholding the Wolves honour so far! Stupid dresses of steel! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2174795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Right then I won roll off and asked Bobs to go first hoping beyond hope to snatch the initative. From the above picture You can see the side of the table Bobs took – and he placed his objective in the ruined chemical works – surrounding it with Grey hunters (PG) the razorback and the Pred. The Wolf Guard, Lone wolf and attached Rune Priest were placed in open ground waiting the starters pistol where after they would try to do the 100m sprint to my objective (I think the fact that they were in term armour had not dawned on the Guard – maybe a few too many beers the night before, while the lone wolf was grinning without anyone seeing he had fitting spikes to his power armour and I think though I don't wish to cast aspersions his face looked like he had been taking some kind of illegal performance enhancing drugs). The landraider with the loonies in + wolf priest went far right top corner with the rhino with the other hunters nearby. I had placed my objective in the Dark Angels Chapel (of course) and put my Lib + 1 DW squad in the chapel. I placed my LandRaider (+ Command squad and THE MIGHTY BELIAL TM) next to the chapel but for the life of me I have no idea why I put it on the side of the las-cannon armed Razorback. The Bikes + AB I put on my left side in front of the tree’s, I then scouted them up to the other trees ready for a melta assault on the land raider. Why I didn’t split them into 2 lots of 3 on either flank to keep Bobs guessing on DWA I don't know but as you will find out DWA was the last of my worries (I think mortgage, wife, kids, running my business all came before it!) http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8431/hpim2030c.th.jpg http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6517/hpim2032.th.jpg Right then time to snatch the initiave– ok I didn't – There is a big gulp going on here! WOLVES TURN 1 Bobs motored his landraider up to the bikes, the wolf guard & lone wolf moved and ran towards to the chapel. http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4718/hpim2031m.th.jpg And unleashed the AC – bolt pistols the only lucky thing that might save my bacon was Bobs had thought that the bikes and AB were all one unit – he then had to split fire – killing a bike and taking a wound off the AB. The Razorback gunner licked his lips and aimed at the Raider – 6 to hit, 6 to AP and 6 on the Vechilce Result chart – AS Harry Hill would say ‘what are the chances of that happening?’ Bobs was laughing all the way to the bank while the swear filter will blow up with amount I was using! My Command Squad dusted themselves down and then to add insult to injury had to quickly dive for cover as the autocannon fired at them. The Blood Claws launched their assault losing 2/3 claws for the loss of 3 bikes . PILE IN ANGELS TURN 1 I was still laughing about the loss of the raider but had to take some form of action – maybe the loss of the raider meant my brain was not working or maybe the Stella was working fast – I forgot to DWA the last squad Now that meant I had a Ven Dread in Pod and a DW squad off the board (465pts worth) and I had just lost 250pts for the LRC with the bikes about to die I was thinking this will be a short game. The 2 squads of DW fired at the Wolf Guard – killing 1. The bike assault went badly – 1 more claw for 2 more bikes – leaving 1 biker alone - Bobs was rolling well! http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5937/hpim2033.th.jpg OUTMANNED AND OUTGUNNED was never so apt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2174968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperDave Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The Blood Claws launched their assault losing 2/3 claws for the loss of 3 bikes . Do you mean he lost two thirds of his BCs ? or he lost two or three of them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 The Blood Claws launched their assault losing 2/3 claws for the loss of 3 bikes . Do you mean he lost two thirds of his BCs ? or he lost two or three of them? he lost 2 or 3 of them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobman Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The Blood Claws launched their assault losing 2/3 claws for the loss of 3 bikes . Do you mean he lost two thirds of his BCs ? or he lost two or three of them? Not even I am that unlucky, and anyone who's played me will testify on my unnatural ability to roll 1s! Although I think le_tiss took that ability from me for the first half of this game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Bobs - Good evening to you Wolves Turn 2: Not alot of movement from Bobs - in fact we got into a discussion about the relative strengths of the X-Box (him) and PS3 (me) before it degenerated into 'well The Lion likes girls clothes (skirts obviously), and Russ like get it on with animals and of course the fabled my primach is bigger than yours' we decided to get on with the game and each believe that Call of Duty was better on our respective system :D The Wolf Guard & the Lone Wolf moved and ran again towards my lines - the raider backed up behind the trees and the Razor and Pred searched for targets finally alighting on the local KFC for a Bargain Bucket before peppering my DW squads with fire. I would love to tell you about my DW using their wealth of combat experience they used every part of the terrain to take cover behind but alas I would be lying Bobs just couldn’t shot straight ;) His Blood Claws wiped out my last biker and consolidated a mighty 2" http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4706/hpim2034.th.jpg http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/596/hpim2035.th.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9554/hpim2036a.th.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3095/hpim2037y.th.jpg Angels Turn 2: Reserves - yeah baby - roll those dice - ok the DW were having afternoon tea with the local women's inistute (at least they got cucumber sandwiches!) and the Ven Dred was playing Tic/Tac/Toe with the computer from Wargames - WOPR (pronounced "Whopper")- he prefers Joshua I believe- Hmmm I wonder if Matthew Broderick was there - Your move David! Thus I had no reserves coming this turn What could I do? I had raving loonies coming at me from two sides all looking like they had just been thrown out of a pub before closing time - right then I looked din the book of DW BRILLIENT TACTICAL MOVES and found a gem that many a DW commander has used in the past - yep I backed up whilst firing all my guns at the baddies ;) http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1542/hpim2038.th.jpg A couple of dead Claws later and I was a happy though still very worried DW player Would the game be over in time for me to show Bobs the error of his ways by putting on Uncharted 2? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Thanks for a fun read and report so far. From one of the uncouth. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewl Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Yep, very funny read so far with the way you describe the actions. I actually laughed out loud a bit (Wel a bit of a snikker more really) that made my colleagues look up with raised eyebrows. Now please post the rest, the suspence is killing me. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobman Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 There's a bit more of a scrap and the Wolves win the day, of course ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chodjinn Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 how did he fit 10 grey hunters into the razorback then?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobman Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 how did he fit 10 grey hunters into the razorback then?! I didn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 how did he fit 10 grey hunters into the razorback then?! He told them there were Bolter Babes and a full barrel of ale in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2175988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 how did he fit 10 grey hunters into the razorback then?! I didn't. I assumed the new wolves could do what the DA and SM could do and buy a Razorback even with 10 men? Anyway I am back after being at a client site all morning. Wolves Turn 3: Bobs had a wolfish grin upon his face - either my dog was sniffing or licking somewhere or he had a plan ;) The Claws moved closer to the chapel whilst singing a 80's classic from Duran Duran (do I have to spell it out or do you get the joke!) The Wolf Guard and the lone wolf also moved and then ran towards the objective but managed to roll very small numbers for the run move. The Raider moved towards the chapel and the pred and razorback lined up shots on the command squad - The grey hunters in the rhino also moved towards my objective but the other grey hunters suddenly spotted some flowers and decided to make daisy chains. I then realised Bobs cunning plan :o - he was I think going to try to assault my Lib's squad through the chapel window (whilst saying a few hail Mary’s and putting some change on the collection platter for any damage caused) Another round of shooting to endure from most of Bob’s army. The wolf priest decided to use one of his funky new powers but my hood dissipated the power. I managed to make most of my saves - trying desperately to allocate wounds to my serg + friend so that Bobs would not be able to reach my squad. Unfortunately for me those two made every armour save and those that didn't either the apothecary or the lib's force barrier came into effect (which Bob's didn't make his 4+ hood roll :P ) - all in all I lost 1 termie from the Lib's squad (3 failed saves in all). Gotta love that Apothecary and Force Barrier Bobs then looked at me, winked and rolled for the difficult terrain assault move - a 4 - not enough - a huge sigh of relief came from my side of the table while the watcher's in the dark of the chapel got the right hump on missing out on the money for their 'save the roof' fund. Angels Turn 3: right then Reserves - The Ven Dred must have either got bored of not winning or had won at long last and decided to join the party. The Pod landed 8" away from the Razorback and the Chemical ruins (this was after I had checked with Bob that there was no power fist in the squad :D ) The Lib squad decided to take the fight to the enemy and moved out of the chapel (carefully of course those watchers in the dark were upset already no point angering them more!) My Command Squad again moved slightly backward trying desperately to work out a 13" range from the lone wolf. Ok then - Hellfire - I rolled 6 (-2) for str - thus str4 :huh: and AP ....................................................5 <_< In the end I think I killed from hellfire and shooting another 2 or 3 claws - I then charged them The command squad fired at the wolf guard with special peppermint oil rounds which caused a wound and for them to run to the hills - :woot: The Ven Dred fired and immobilised the razor so he could not fire back (what actually happen was I rolled a 6 to hit then failed to pen on the arm pen rule but Bob's being the gentlemen he is remember that a plasma cannon uses the scatter die etc etc thus we rolled again - therefore I got two bites and I did tell you I haven’t played in a while!) The Lib + squad piled into the claws - killed a few and lost a couple of Termie (having used hellfire I couldn't force barrier or force weapon anyone or anywound!) http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1911/hpim2039a.th.jpg By the way I was onto my next beer and photo's where becoming less as my memory faded! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2176041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'm liking this report. With regards to the Duran Duran track, I'm assuming Hungry Like the Wolf, but thinking about it it could be any one of: Hungry Like the Wolf, Save a Prayer (coz of the chapel), New Moon on Monday (wolfy? ), The Wild Boys (yeah!), A View to a Kill and probably even more. Anyway, as you were. Marek Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2176118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'm liking this report. With regards to the Duran Duran track, I'm assuming Hungry Like the Wolf, but thinking about it it could be any one of: Hungry Like the Wolf, Save a Prayer (coz of the chapel), New Moon on Monday (wolfy? ), The Wild Boys (yeah!), A View to a Kill and probably even more. Anyway, as you were. Marek top top work Wolves Turn 4: Reserves - The Wolf Scouts turned up and came on from the right had side (me) and moved towards the fight with blood claws in but behind the barrier. Rallying - The wolf guard rallied and about turned and again began the trek toward my command squad Bobs had some choices to make :mellow: The PG Grey Hunters moved up to take better positions to rake the Dred with plasma fire - which caused 1 get hot and 1 glancing hit which came up as a 5 - damn and blast, then I remembered the Ven dread re-roll - which came up a 2 - yee ha The lone wolf moved towards the Command Squad baring his fangs and shooting his pistol, wounding a termie (saved) The rhino moved again towards the objective The razor shot at the Veb Dred missing first then hitting (thank you twin linked :angry: ) but not penetrating. The pred also had a go at the dred but only hit once - penetrated on a 4 (taking off the DCCW) I then remembered the re-roll - a 1 this time :D The assault went well for me - killing 3 claws without any loss - the claws failed their LDship test and ran like the scurvy dogs they are. This left me in a great position. The Lone wolf charged the Command squad rolling a 6 on his difficult terrain test (arse) - and managed to save all the wounding hits against him with his storm shield - he rolled I think 2 extra attacks for his Wolfen blood but only couldn't get past the termie armour (though he did leave some saliva on one arm pauldron) Angels Turn 4: The other DW squad finally turned up after tea (they could have been on the table from turn 1 - arrrrrrrgggggghhhhh). After debating for about half an hour where to put them down (offensive or defensive? - Offensive to take the oppo's objective or defensive to fight off - the Wolf Guard / Blood Claws / Wolf Scouts / Grey Hunters that were coming for my objective) In the end I went Defensive and placed them next to the crater where the Raider was previously. They scattered 7" towards my lines. http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9474/hpim2041g.th.jpg They fired at the Wolf Guard but Bobs made all his saves (bloody terminator armour - said Mr. Pot to Mr. Kettle) The Ven Dred penetrated the Razor 3 times and rolled a 1,2 and weapon destroyed result - exactly what I wanted - he set his sights on the Objective http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3844/hpim2042pj.th.jpg The Lib laughed out laugh as the wolf scouts where set up for another Hellfire - burn baby burn - Str 7(5) - AP (in best Brucie accent - anything lower than a 4) - yep I rolled a 6 - grrrrrr I killed a scout and then charged them - killing another 2 - making them run for the hills also - I consolidated behind the barrier ;) but within 6" of the scouts ;) http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6551/hpim2040.th.jpg The Command Squad sliced the lone wolf to ribbons and then consolidated into the crater once more. Right then this game had swung back my way - the lib + 1 termie had seen off the claws and the scouts but still had the them to come back + the Grey hunter to worry about. I could win this :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2176193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 Right then got footie training in a minute so I will try to keep it brief Wolves Turn 5: The Scouts couldn't rally and kept on running but the heroic blood claws did rally and looked to get back into the fight - moving toward the Librarian again Bob motored his Rhino the full wack next to my objective - the Grey Hunter disembarked - a sly smile running across their lips as they posed for the latest issue of Dogs Monthly Magazine (http://www.dogsmonthly.co.uk/) - Last month had Dire Wolves I believe on the cover and no self respecting SpaceWolf was going to allow those mangy creatures to be the pin up boys of Dogs Monthly (the grey hunters had also been speaking to their agent about a possible calendar and Exercise DVD for Xmas - but I digress.) The Raider moved to a point covering the long walk my DW would have to take if I wanted to get to his objective. The Wolf Guard moved to the edge of the crater made by the LandRaider blowing up on turn 1 (turn 1 for god's sake :angry: - as you can see I still haven't got over the shock and loss of this - I have made an appointment to see the local shrink about anger management classes but tbh I am a little worried what else he may find up in the noggin so to speak!) The rune Priest dillied while the Grey hunters (PG) dallied and the pred moved away from the objective and my Dred with a suggestive come and get me big boy look on its rear armour. So onto shooting - the pred tried his hardest to take down the Ven Dred but can up short again while the Grey Hunter on the objective fired everything they had at the DW command Squad (thought not till I am writing this do I remember that Bobs forgot to fire the Rhino's SB's - double SB for an extra 5pts are a bargain in my book. At this point I think bobs would have liked the PG rather than the melta's firing but after the noise and smoke 2 termie were down (one got back up again thank to the apothecary) My Face >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobs face The claws made a jammy difficult terrain roll and as my Lib fluffed his attack's the stage was set for some daring do by the claws and especially the power fist wearing one - Bobs split his attacks - killing my termie with normal guys and then Fisting my Lib :ermm: who decided to Force barrier the wound (stupidity or Stella - should have inv saved it) as Bobs Rune priest negated the psychic power with his hood - all that was left was 1 blood claw - the victor of the scrap :down: The Wolf Guard finally made it into combat - Bobs was getting excited now lets see what a termie or termie scraps looks like (unfortunately for Bobs he hadn’t killed enough of them and I had the sneaky DW banner adding an extra attack to each person in the unit). Belial went first and chopped up 1 WG, Lightning claw dude went next and also chopped up 1 WG (bobs failing his invulable saves) - the last WG went at the same time but I managed my Inv save while (yep you have guessed it) bobs did also but he ran away - Hurrah, Hurrah and thrice Hurrah - I consolidated toward the Grey Hunter with a glint in my eye :P Now Bobs did something a little rash in my opinion he charged the Dred with his Grey hunters hoping that the Krak grenades might take it out - now I too have fallen for this sort of decision making (though normally in tournaments for me!) Death or Glory the hunter shouted and then remembered that they got no bonus's for charging so 9 str 6 attacks then - they failed - the Dred killed2 with his DCCW and then they failed there LDship check :lol: they ran off the table. I had to be helped off the floor by a Bob who looked like I had on turn 1 Angels Turn 5: Right then what could I do to win this game - I think I have my objective covered for this and if the dice decide the next few turns - can I get to the church on time - sorry can I get to bobs objective with my DW? I decided that the Ven Dred would go after the Pred (in the world of 40k vehicle pron Pred are right up near the top IMO and obviously the Dred's) though this would take it away from the objective - Mr Dred managed to mangle the pred from behind - blowing it skyhigh! The DW squad moved towards Bob's objective hoping 6 in the run phase would bring them within 3" of the objective (no way this could happen tbf - but I though it sound more dramatic this way - remember never let the truth get in the way of a good story as a good friend once told me just before he asked me for £100 to save his gerbil dying from hepatitis Z). They managed 2" <_< http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7121/hpim2043.th.jpg http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4687/hpim2045f.th.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5765/hpim2046f.th.jpg The DW Command Squad lined up a H.Flamer shot that encompassed 9 out of 10 Grey Hunters whilst Belial and his mates tried to look menacing. Can you believe it I only killed 4 hunters from the HF and SB shots - right then in we go it's fisting time :ermm: 5 seconds later and the objective had been cleared on Baby blue armour except the Rhino that I had forgotton which was contesting my objective mmmmmmmmm http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4730/hpim2044.th.jpg I rolled to see if we would play on for a 6th turn but alas the dice gods had had enough and didn’t want me to win (one more turn I would have been there) That meant that my home objective was contested and no one has Bobs objective A DRAW I hope that keep you all entertained and I will write up summary notes (what worked what didn't, what tactical blunders I made and what I would have done in Bobs Shoes) + man of the Match for me - and hopefully Bobs will for do the same if he has time! le_tiss out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2176448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I don't mean to sound silly or inflammatory but.... how did this happen? I thought DA had a stinker of a list and with GH being underpriced etc. the SW have a good Codex. What happened? - as in I don't understand how it happened.... :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2176578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobman Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I feel it important to point out that my GH were charged by the Ven Dread, not the other way round. With 2 plasma guns and a cyclone in that squad with no power fist I'm not that stupid. :rolleyes: Good game though, even if we were a bit rusty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2177094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chodjinn Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 how did he fit 10 grey hunters into the razorback then?! I didn't. I assumed the new wolves could do what the DA and SM could do and buy a Razorback even with 10 men? That's legal? I thought Razorbacks were bought as a transport option and not as support? Strange. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2177099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobman Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 I'm liking this report. With regards to the Duran Duran track, I'm assuming Hungry Like the Wolf, but thinking about it it could be any one of: Hungry Like the Wolf, Save a Prayer (coz of the chapel), New Moon on Monday (wolfy? ), The Wild Boys (yeah!), A View to a Kill and probably even more. Anyway, as you were. Marek View to a Kill? No tuxs here! It has to be Hungry like Wolf :P how did he fit 10 grey hunters into the razorback then?! I didn't. I assumed the new wolves could do what the DA and SM could do and buy a Razorback even with 10 men? That's legal? I thought Razorbacks were bought as a transport option and not as support? Strange. They are bought as a transport Razorbacks do not go in heavy support, and it is legal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2177121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 I feel it important to point out that my GH were charged by the Ven Dread, not the other way round. With 2 plasma guns and a cyclone in that squad with no power fist I'm not that stupid. :P Good game though, even if we were a bit rusty. Sorry mate - when I got to the end of the report I thought did that happen in that order (the Dred must have come on a turn earlier!) Very rusty & lager :P In answer to Marshall Will - Are you being ironic? Any list can beat any other list IMO - it's down to the general and luck - I am not saying it's not an uphill struggle with certain list/codex's but you can mitigate stuff. Bobs drew the game IMO because of 2 factors i) his inability to roll ldship tests (4 major times IIRC) now as a player of both Warhammer systems having ld 8 or 9 is great but if you roll 10/11/11/12 then what can you do? ii) The other thing is last time Bobs and I played Wolves vs Angels he won but because he remembered the age old tactic of weight of fire vs termie's not quality of fire - even with a 2+ save (which can make you brave or foolhardy!) roll enough dice and 1's will come up. My termie armour saves shone in this game as did my Apocecary and Force barrier unfortunately for Bobs my psychic hood beat his 4 times out of 5. Grey Hunters are the shizzle though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2177160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Good report in an interesting style. Thanks a lot! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2177203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 In answer to Marshall Will - Are you being ironic? Any list can beat any other list IMO - it's down to the general and luck - I am not saying it's not an uphill struggle with certain list/codex's but you can mitigate stuff. I was only being a little ironic as I was very surprised that DA would keep up with SW. SW > UM > DA - at least that was the way I understood it with the present army books. Hmmm, probably a good wake up call for me not to think "Oh it's only C:xx I am facing, well I won't even need to try, they'll probably kill themselves for me" :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2177210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 In answer to Marshall Will - Are you being ironic? Any list can beat any other list IMO - it's down to the general and luck - I am not saying it's not an uphill struggle with certain list/codex's but you can mitigate stuff. I was only being a little ironic as I was very surprised that DA would keep up with SW. SW > UM > DA - at least that was the way I understood it with the present army books. Hmmm, probably a good wake up call for me not to think "Oh it's only C:xx I am facing, well I won't even need to try, they'll probably kill themselves for me" :lol: :P Never believe the internet re:power level's - I always wonder how people can play with each unit choice 10 times vs each opposition unit choice from every codex to get a feeling for what works and what doesn;t? Always just play games because different choices suit different player styles Anyway I did a Batrep with Forresttim a while ago (4th edition :( ) which I have linked below - it is DA vs CSM (a special scenario called Hunt the Fallen written by Brother Bish who you might have seen in GW/WD (he also wrote the Land Raider Ares rules). It is written in a more traditional manner (i.e. Facts & fluff) rather than the style above I know it i) 4th edition and ii) not SW but I thought it was a entertaining read. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...mp;hl=Balthamel Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/183967-dark-angels-vs-new-and-improved-space-wolves/#findComment-2177214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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