MaleOpener Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Good morning to all, In lue of my dread/pred addiction, I would like to form a SW force around this. My ideas are ... 1. Dreadnoughts would take up my elite choices. 2. Grey Hunters would take up my troop choices. 3. Predators would take up my heavy support choices. My HQ choices, will be decided, once my force starts to take shape. So, my question to you is, what are your opinions to my idea? Is there anything I should keep in mind, or any tactics you are willing to share? Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 How many points do have planned? Personally i love dreads and 2+ preds are also a good choise. What armament for the Dreads and preds? With three dreads i would go for Bjorn the Fell-handed as your first HQ choise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2181097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Hmmm... I think a lot of people find the triple lascannon predator to be incredibly expensive for what it does, therefore depending on the rest of your list I would run them either as dedicated infantry slayers with autocannon and heavy bolters or perhaps swap the bolters for lascannon sponsons, adding the twin-linked lascannon would make them too expensive in my mind. Of course Dreads can be kitted out pretty much however you need them, I recommend keeping the close combat weapon on them regardless to add some weight to assaults if so needed (because apparently strength 6 attacks that don't ignore armour saves are useless these days) You could always take Bjorn as your HQ, expensive but very deadly or so I'm hearing. However I'll pass you onto a more knowledgeable wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2181099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I run a 4 dread list myself, with Bjorn as my HQ. I can tell you, your opponent will hate you. I run a mix of two Long Fang dreads (TLLC/ML) and two CC dreads (Bjorn with AC and the other with AC/DCCW with HF). It´s a good and balanced mix against infantry and tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2181104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Go with Dakka Preds and have Lascannons/Meltas on your Dreads. Make sure you give your dreads Extra Armor and park em in cover. <3 Hook your GH up with Rhinos and bam, you have yourself a workable army. =) Sounds fun to play to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2181244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'd drop 1 pred for a vindicator. love me those vindicators... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2181633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapniK Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Give your grey hunters Razorbacks and have them walk behind the Razorbacks or put the Razorbacks on the sides of your predators so that their week side armour is not exposed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2181637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Use your Dreads for heavy tank hunting, and your predators to kill hordes and transports is the most effective way I find. If your running GH as your infantry with Dread and Pred support, Id reccommend a squad for every 400pts, or right about. Rune Priest with Stormcaller is worth its weight in gold if your footslogging, and helps alot even if your mounted. Consider a Swiftclaw pack for your FA choices- it would give you a spot to put a Wolf Lord or Wolf Priest without taking up an spots in your rhinos *if going mounted* and/or giving you a fast assault unit to tie up enemy squads with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2181640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Though 40k seems to favor repetive units. If your into the fluff and the look, I say spread the love around and make all your units look Unique. Give EA to your Vindi if you got the points, for sure on the DP dread and the rest should not need it. Bjorn w/ PC PC gives you the extra range needed to get him working for you on turn 1. Dread 1 AC/HF EA/WTN In DP. fantastic disruption unit. Dread 2 AutoC/AutoC Dread 3 TLLC/DCCW Pread 1 TLLC / LC Pread 2 AutoC/HB Pread 3 AutoC/LC , but I really would recommend Vindi to escort your Rhinos Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2182021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 The triple autocannon/ heavy bolter predator (dakkapreds) should not be discarded that easily. It can put a lot of harm on youre opponent as i found out. (my opponent used it once and it hurts). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2182078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I toyed around abit with your idea and came up with a 2000 points list: Bjorn the Fell-handed Dread 1: AC, DCCW/HF, WTT, WTN Dread 2: TLLC, ML Dread 3: TLLC, ML GH Pack 1: 2 Melta, PF, Wolfbanner, Rhino GH Pack 2: 2 Melta, PF, Rhino GH Pack 3: 2 Plasmaguns, PF, Rhino Swift Claws: 4 Bikes with Melta, 1 Attack Bike with MM 3 Predator Annihilator: TLLC, LC I like the idea of the list but most the time i play 1750 point games, so i changed the list a bit: Bjorn the Fell-handed Dread 1: AC, DCCW/HF, WTT, WTN Dread 2: TLLC, ML Dread 3: TLLC, ML GH Pack 1: 2 Melta, PF, Wolfbanner, Rhino GH Pack 2: 2 Melta, PF, Rhino GH Pack 3: 2 Plasmaguns, PF, Rhino 3 Vindicators: Siege Shields Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2182091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaleOpener Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Wow! Thanks for all the replies! Not to mention the work some did. These posts will give me alot to think about. Though, I wonder why no one has mentioned a dread with a MM? Also, how would I equip my HQ for such a list? As of now, I'm going with a WGBL heading to 1000pts. Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2182568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Though, I wonder why no one has mentioned a dread with a MM? Short range, one shot, not twin-linked. That´s the reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184536-i-have-a-force-idea-and-would-like-your-opinions-on-it/#findComment-2182571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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