Devon M Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I am strongly considering starting a Grey knights army. It might have some inquisitorial troops and such but mostly grey knights. I don't want to be spending a ton of cash on this, and I want a variety of poses. Also I'm not a big fan of metal because I like to make each guy different, which is easy with plastic kits. Obviously space marine kits are an option, but then I'll be lacking the intense detail thats on all of the grey knight stuff. Has anyone found a solution to this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Check out the modeling section, there are a number of articles on converting plastic Marines into Grey Knights. Personally, I'm huge fan of an all metal army, but that's just me. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2183936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 You have a LOT of options with the Inquisitors and their Retinue of utilizing non-metal, and also each Grey Knight has individualized heraldry, which gives you even more options of not being the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2183938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Unless you buy a huge number of different kits or have an extensive bits box, its actually easier to make every model Unique in metal than plastic. An all metal army is a glorius thing to behold, and not that long ago was the norm. Back to my first point, there are only so many different poses that work with any give set of legs torso and arms and you can achieve the same result in metal with a piercing saw. Also, a few head swaps and arms swaps will really add flavour to your army. If you don't want a metal army, then GK's aren't a good choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2184117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversmith82 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Second the above. Unfortunately GK are some of the very nicest minis ever produced and they are the expensive metal. If you don't want to spend so much don't do pure GK. Most people use Kaskrin for ISTs which are a good deal and GKT honestly are not much more than their plastic SM counterparts. The PAGK are what is really expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2184387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon M Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Hey everyone. Thanks for the imput. I think I'm going to got with the normal GKTermies. And for the troops I'll have some metal, and some I'll use Black Templar upgrade bits. I will also use the Kasrkin squad, which according to the GW US website are $41.25 dollars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2184445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversmith82 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Except if you order from anywhere that isn't 20% off you are not being very smart about your purchases. Never ever ever pay GW retail. Plenty of stores that have the discount. I'd suggest not even using PAGK at all personally but its up to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2184479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendybadger Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I like the PAGKs, but do look into buying from online discount stores Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2185232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon M Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 I picked up a justicar and psycannon dude at the shop today. I think I am going to like the pewter. My only problem is that all the justicars are gonna look the same, so i might have to do an arm swap or something. But other than that, I'm liking the heft. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2185730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendybadger Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Keep us informed on how you do building your force Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justicar Valius Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 good for you. But if you change a GKT model i will consider you a traitor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendybadger Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 You mean convert it? If so then most of us are traitors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Get yourself a needle saw and a set of the best files you can justify, cut some of the arms and legs at the joints and do some repositioning, files down some details and replace it with other stuff, there are many simple things you can do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon M Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 I am an aweful converter. The extent of my modeling is very limited. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 You just need practice, see if you can get hold of some models to practice on, its easier than you think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon M Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 I'm sure that if I put in the time I could figure it out, but its the idea of screwing up a model that cost $7 that gets me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
- 7eAL - Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I'm sure that if I put in the time I could figure it out, but its the idea of screwing up a model that cost $7 that gets me. Practise on the ancient models that can be found off Ebay. Use them for colour schemes, paint stripping experiments, chop them up, hack them into little pieces and when you're done maybe you'll have enough guts to melt them down, cast them into something else and start all over again. Or just go into jewelrymaking, since you'll have the tools for it by then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon M Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 i'll have the tools and a crap ton of pewter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
- 7eAL - Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 i'll have the tools and a crap ton of pewter. Yep, sounds like my room. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 An inquisition army is the perfect tool for learning how to convert better as there are so many things that can be represent in so many ways, take IST for example, the only thing they really have to be is humans with guns, you could model them as rag tag militia types. You have to trust me on this, its easier than you think. TBH, I don't think $7 is that much (Though I don't know what its worth to you or truely in real terms these days) compared to how much time and effort you could put in and how much enjoyment you could get out of it. You won't grow as a modeller if you don't take risks, thats why I liked it when GW published rules for models they'd never make. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2186968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
- 7eAL - Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 An inquisition army is the perfect tool for learning how to convert better as there are so many things that can be represent in so many ways, take IST for example, the only thing they really have to be is humans with guns, you could model them as rag tag militia types. They could be the Deep Eyes squadron troopers from Final Fantasy Spirits Within. They could be the Wolf Brigade of Jin Roh. They could be the SBS from the UK. They could be the Spetsnaz GRU. They could be Team Rainbow from Rainbow Six. They could be Grenadiers of the Death Corp of Krieg. Whatever. Technically, they don't even need to be humans. They could be Adeptus Mechanicus defense drones. They could be hired mercenaries and private armies of various races - with a conspicuous Squat member or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2188037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Whats SBS? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2188955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversmith82 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Basically the UK version of SEALS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2189129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 The Special Boat service, I completly forgot about them, I thought you meant SAS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2189147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon M Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 I think for now I am going to go with the metal models, I'll atleast do 10 PAGK and a squad of termies, and probably a dread, because dreads look awesome. I was thinking about using the masters models (master of armory, scouts and what ever else, the four guys) as justicars, with some weapon swaps. That way each squad has a different justicar, and the justicar model will had more of a variety to the average squad. Does anyone think that the masters could work or not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184762-how-to-get-around-an-all-metal-army/#findComment-2189156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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