cadaver2k Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Im going to build a DH pure army and I was wondering what I can use to open up tanks from further then melta range? The only thing that I have noticed was a Dread with TLLC and ML or a Land Raider. I plan on getting 2 Dreads that I will be able to swap weapons on but I dont think that using a LR for tank hunting is that great of an idea. What do you guys think? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendybadger Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 If you are using to transport aswell then LCs are just a bonus. Get the squishy things out the tin before you chop them up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2185224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversmith82 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Done right you don't really need more than melta range. Vehicles/armor is much harder to kill with lascannons/missiles now than it was in 4th. Meltas is one thing DH does very well with IST and LRCs (which are the best LRCs in the game). But yeah dreads or LRs are the only things you can get for ranged armor busting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2185489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadaver2k Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 So, run up a 5 man IST group with 2 meltas in some transport (Rhino/Chimera) and blast away. Right? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2185688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mel Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Or an inquisitro with combimelta with 3 meltavets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2186039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendybadger Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Or maybe 3 MM Servitors? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2186410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversmith82 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 No, that'd be way too static and short ranged since they can't move and shoot like meltavets can. An elite =][= in a Rhino with 3 meltavets and a combi melta is nice but doesn't really do the job any better than the 5 IST which are scoring. Remember you can alwasy upgrade to IST vet with a combimelta too if you want a unit basically guaranteed to blow up whatever armor it gets close to. For the gunman vet =][= unit I'd much rather do 3x plasmavets and combi plasma on the elite =][=. 8x rapid fire plasma shots at BS4 vs MEQ would be quite the joy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2186422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendybadger Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Very good point Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2186424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 MMs on LRCs are long-range enough, as that's a tank that you want to be advancing into the enemy anyway (most of the time, at least). Similarly, taking a deep-strike defense Inquisitor with a MM servitor (and the requisite two mystics) and mounting him in a chimera or rhino will give you nearly as good results. You get a bunker to park in the midfield that marks a very dangerous swath of space for enemy vehicles to enter. If you want longer range than that in a DH army, I would no longer turn to GK dreads or LRs anymore. You need those heavy spots for GK LRCs, frankly. And since GK LRCs are expensive, get your downtown firepower from inducted IG with autocannons (transport popping) and lascannons. You can buy both in enough numbers for cheap that they are very economical choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2186446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avatar8481 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Once again number6 is absolutely correct. We disagree on rhino or chimeras for the melta-vet squads, but every time I've run the list it's the move 12" and shoot LRC MM that saves the day/kills tanks. The MM servitor for the inq and the melta vets are basically insurance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2186510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversmith82 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Also realize that inducted IG Chimeras CAN transport your IST instead of the squads they got bought for and IIRC 3 of them wind up only being 70 pts more total than 3 empty DH Chimeras. Oh, and that also includes the 25 man barebones IG platoon that you can tool out with heavy/special weapons and sit on your home objective next to the bunker inquisitor. They'll happily demolish any deep strikers with the inquisitor directing them and if you put a Commissar in there they'll be hard to extract. Then you take the ridiculously superior IG Chimeras, plop the 5x IST with dual melta action in there and away you go. Congratulations, you've just bought yourself a 70 pt IG platoon (basic without upgrades) and 3x mechanized scoring units at 125 pts each w/2 melta shots, 3 hellgun shots (or 6 rapid firing), a multilaser AND a heavy flamer... Oh and those melta shots can become plasma if you want that instead. Yeah... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2186822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendybadger Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The OP did say he wanted a pure DH army though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2187279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 If you do use inducted Chimeras (I know the OP doesn't want to) your better of putting the Inq with 3 melta vets in there for tank hunting, that way you can roll up and fire 4 meltas into your target, or you could go for the servitors, stay still and fire three multi meltas and two meltas and a multi laser. Your problem with doing this is you need to buy some guard and the confusion due to the different chimera rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2187361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversmith82 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 No confusion at all as long as you have an IG codex handy and make it abundantly clear in your army list that they ar IG Chimeras. And yeah an elite inquisitor with 3 meltavets in a Chimera would be good but IMO the 5X IST with 2 meltas is a better value because it is scoring. Conversely you can put the IG platoon command in there with a bunch of flamers. And just take the Chimera with dual heavy flamers and turn it into an infantry destroyer. Imagine running it up to a unit of genestealers lol. No more stealers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2187408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendybadger Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Can you fire that much out of a DH Chimera? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2187418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcus Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 no, only two can fire from a DH chimera. The confusion comes in if you have both kinds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2187453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversmith82 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 If you have both kinds then just paint them differently or model them differently at least. Or I dunno just put a marker on the different ones. I'd never use DH chims but IG chims? Gimme Gimme! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184865-pure-dh/#findComment-2189134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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