kraegus Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Hey guys, so until the shops open again this week, and I can go buy miniatures to paint, I've decided to spend some time getting in touch with my painterly side. A forum post in the dark angels forum came up about what the rock looked like (the rock being the fortress monastery of the chapter, for those who were unaware) The thing is, since there's no general consensus on what the rock looks like, everyone has their own ideas, including me. so I whipped up a small sketch in a very short period of time with a basic blueprint. this then had me thinking, well, why don't I ink it, and see what it looks like then. I ended up with this: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2642/4105731681_f4bc7e4d20_b.jpg so then that got me thinking, why don't I paint the thing properly? I've now redrawn it from a 2d perspective to a 3d perspective, i'll keep updating my quest to draw the rock in this topic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Padawan Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 That is a very sweet drawing mate! How long did that take to do? You know to make that even extra impressive is if you diod a cut-a-way diagram as well. You gonna do a bigger version in PhotoShop? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sword brethren Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 very coool! ill be watching this :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraegus Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 it took about 3 hours to do. ok. so here's the rough of the 3D version, you can see the basic details, keep in mind that plenty of things need to be moved around and adjusted as I see fit, but it gives a rough idea. and I'm beginning to flesh it out as follows. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2679/4105808869_19a041f48c_b.jpg I would LOVE critique. I'm extremely new at this whole painting on the computer thing, I've only done it once or twice before. please suggest ANYTHING you think would improve it, don't be shy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feytor Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Looks like a face ;) http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7831/leface.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraegus Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 Looks like a face lol..ahahahah purely unintentional i assure you ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mel Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 A bit like the Easter Island statue on the moon, nice sketch man. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraegus Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 and a little bit more done: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2552/4106212995_5a047f643f.jpg aaand getting there. slowly. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/4106355083_72aaeef1df.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDuke Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Very impressive work so far, just one question. How does the thing change direction? :confused: Are we meant to assume that there are two drives at the back and it just turns very slowly? Even with that you might expect a couple of smaller drives on each side to speed up the rate at which it turns. As I said, aside from that nitpick, excellent work! Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTelion Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 wasnt there a picture of it in a 2nd or 3rd edition Dark Angels Codex? Or maybe it was an Angels Of Death Codex, i cant remember. But if you have an old book like that there might be some reference material. Still, It looks really good dude. Alex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwing70 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 going from 2d to 3d I feel it had lost alot of mass... it feels like it went from a small planetoid (with the sectors representing small villages) to 1 big city rock where most of the surface is filled up with stuff... I'm not sure myself which I prefer, you also drew in a strike cruiser at a size which makes me wonder if it can hold a battle barge? Off course these are all points which are questionable anyway. A Battle Barge could just as well be serviced docking somewhere along the exterior of the Rock as I'd imagine alot of the big battleships would be too big to be actually docked "inside" any space station. Nitpicking aside, I'm loving it and cant wait to see you finish colouring it, looking great so far! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraegus Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 I agree about it looking like it lost too much mass. that was a mistake in scaling on my part. i've extended it, and hopefully it's looking a little better proportioned. I'm undecided on if I should add some space to the bottom and show the very bottom, or keep it as it currently is http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2610/4107283830_0913c9bfbf_b.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Chaos_Brute Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Very cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 *Track this topic* clicky-click! Okay, I am intrigued, and I'm following this. Can't wait to see more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester262 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 yep, I'll be tracking this one too. Very nice so far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StratoKhan Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Hey kraegus, good to see you around again, as artistic as always I see. Here are some suggestions: I've extended it, and hopefully it's looking a little better proportioned. I'm undecided on if I should add some space to the bottom and show the very bottom, or keep it as it currently is The problem with the 3d version and your losing the impression of mass lies in great part with the monastery complex on the top. In the first picture the enormity of the asteroid dwarfed everything, including this mighty structure. If I was you I would think about scaling that down so that it fits more with the proportions of the first ink drawing, which had proportions that I greatly preferred. As for the rest, I'm not an expert on colour or light but I take it that apart from your solar light source you're getting light from the engines? And I suppose a tiny bit from illuminated sources on the buildings. Anyways, it still remains a nice illustration and it should look great once it's finished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraegus Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 The problem with the 3d version and your losing the impression of mass lies in great part with the monastery complex on the top. In the first picture the enormity of the asteroid dwarfed everything, including this mighty structure. If I was you I would think about scaling that down so that it fits more with the proportions of the first ink drawing, which had proportions that I greatly preferred. agreed :) (and yea, it's good to be back, I live in a new country :D) As for the rest, I'm not an expert on colour or light but I take it that apart from your solar light source you're getting light from the engines? And I suppose a tiny bit from illuminated on the buildings. yea the only bit that's illuminated by the engines is the back bit. everything else will be front light, except the buildings in shadow will have various window lights that can been seen. i think. I'm winging it as I go along really, if it feels good then I do it. thanks ever so much for the advice :D This is why input is so appreciated, I have NO defined plan in mind whatsoever, i'm pretty much making it up as I go along. aand here we go: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2535/4106746413_4a1db6f0a0_b.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanan Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 hey kraegus, i really like your sketch and photoshop work of the Rock. to be honest i dont think anyones attempted it before but yours is superb. ill be checking back to see how its coming along, great work man! peace Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 That... is... awesome. It's not really the way I pictured the Rock but it certainly works and shows a lot more creativity in shape, design and utility than I could have come up with. I especially prefere the scaled back Monastery on top, it really adds to the feel of size and mass. In the end you could perhaps show scale by including a small fleet following alongside the Rock just discernable against it's unbelievable size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraegus Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 and here's a close up of sector 4 :lol: the buildings are white because that's right on the edge of the vertical horizon. i'll continue colouring, and if it looks like those buildings should be in shadow, then i'll fix it :) http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2707/4107728560_bfdb79c7a6_o.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StratoKhan Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Yeah, you're in Germany now right? Hope you're enjoying it. Seeing the buildings up close is great, they have a lot of detail. That space background is lovely. Looks like you've made some serious progress. At this pace you'll be done quite soon it would seem. Well, I'm looking forward to seeing the end result. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraegus Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Yeah, you're in Germany now right? Hope you're enjoying it. Seeing the buildings up close is great, they have a lot of detail. That space background is lovely. Looks like you've made some serious progress. At this pace you'll be done quite soon it would seem. Well, I'm looking forward to seeing the end result. yep, it's great, lots of architecture to take inspiration from. I would hazard to guess that I'm about 1/6th done. I may be making good headway, but I've still got a LOT of Rock to cover :) sector 4 is being pesky and taking a while :lol: you can see two thunderhawks flying out of one of the west hangars http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2740/4107283283_b89a705c53_o.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch«•»Angel Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 nice pics. definitely the first ive ever seen so far. looks great too. too bad there arent more BFGs on it though. The Rock is supose to have enough firepower to massacre an entire fleet. XD but very nice pics though. hope to see more!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2185656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraegus Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 hahah well i'm not done yet :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2186097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwing70 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 looking great! I love your choice of colours Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184867-sketching-the-rock/#findComment-2186140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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