Devon M Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 The only solution I've come across was in a sticky on this forum where he said to use shotgun pellets. I don't think thats practical for me, so I was wondering what people use since nickels and such are hard to cut in two? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTelion Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 i tend to save all the bits of metal i.e the tags etc and stick those in the two halves. Works quite well to be honest. Alex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2185461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon M Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 I've also read that. I see how it would work, but I'm just starting a GK army, and so have none. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2185484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadris Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 he cheapest I've found is epoxy + nails (the hammering kind). I cut the nails to whatever lengths i need to fill the base and then glue them in with an epoxy gel. Though I'm starting to lean towards making a mold of sorts and melting solder or similar metals into it and then using that. because shotgun pellets (small bb's may work if not to big) are spheres they will fill a round space better than most other options (including my nails suggestion) and because they are most likely steel they will prolly be a little heavier (not much though). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2187550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquisitor Tarn Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 depends on how much heavier you want to make your models. If only a little extra in needed, I used this method on all my SOB seraphim, and they no longer fall over Do a squad at a time and once models have been super-glued into the slotta bases, mix a small amount of car body filler at a time (5 minutes working time) and use it to fill both the two bottom sections AND the slot , then press down onto a piece of masking paper to expel any exess filler, leave for a few minutes until set hard then trim off any exess with a craft knife BEFORE it fully cures, and peel off the tape. Leave models on their sides to allow filler to fully cure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2187603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 For my orks, I simple use epoxy resin, its fairly weighty when cured and easy to work with... plus a large tube is fairly cheap from pratically any DiY store. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2187692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I've been looking for this solution recntly, as well. I need my bases to be directionally-weighted to counterbalance my Assault Marines with pewter jump packs. They tend to fall backward, so I want weight in the front. I went looking for good old fashioned lead fishing sinkers, only to discover that lead fish sinkers are now illegal in Maine, as is lead shotgun pellet load. I had plans to buy a spool of lead solder and just coil it up and glue in place, but I can't find THAT either. It's like lead is now scarce or something! You can buy larger lead fishing weights, but they're HUGE and I don't feel like sawing a million little chunks out of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2187698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I've been looking for this solution recntly, as well. I need my bases to be directionally-weighted to counterbalance my Assault Marines with pewter jump packs. They tend to fall backward, so I want weight in the front. I went looking for good old fashioned lead fishing sinkers, only to discover that lead fish sinkers are now illegal in Maine, as is lead shotgun pellet load. I had plans to buy a spool of lead solder and just coil it up and glue in place, but I can't find THAT either. It's like lead is now scarce or something! You can buy larger lead fishing weights, but they're HUGE and I don't feel like sawing a million little chunks out of them. i tend to save all the bits of metal i.e the tags etc and stick those in the two halves. Works quite well to be honest. Alex I've done this as well. As an option, seek out a tire place. Weights are always having to be removed when mounting and balancing new tires, ask for (and even provide an empty coffee can if you like) the old ones "for a project". Tell them it's for a pinewood derby entry or whatever. Hobby Lobby and similar sometimes stock weights for pinewood derby kits. Otherwise, old models or those that have been scavenged can be melted down in similar fashion. Carve out a groove or whatever shape you like (to make the cooled shape more managable) in a 2x4 scrap, then melt and pour. When cool just snip off what you need for each model and glue/epoxy or attach however you prefer it into place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2187744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadris Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I've been looking for this solution recntly, as well. I need my bases to be directionally-weighted to counterbalance my Assault Marines with pewter jump packs. They tend to fall backward, so I want weight in the front. I went looking for good old fashioned lead fishing sinkers, only to discover that lead fish sinkers are now illegal in Maine, as is lead shotgun pellet load. I had plans to buy a spool of lead solder and just coil it up and glue in place, but I can't find THAT either. It's like lead is now scarce or something! You can buy larger lead fishing weights, but they're HUGE and I don't feel like sawing a million little chunks out of them. if you want it only on the front, try nuts (like bolt and nut) or washers. A mini is actually very light compared to other materials you can use to weight them down. For example the a plastic mini is about 1.1 g/cm3 in density while nickel is 8.9 g/cm3 and the pewter in the metal mini's is about 9g/cm3 if i had to guess. quick look at lowes (since you stated you in the US) a 10 pack of small steel washers is about $0.56 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2188142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arschbombe Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I use Tungsten disks that are sold by the ounce from shops that cater to the boy scouts and their pinewood derby cars. Tungsten is significantly more dense than lead and so you can pack more weight in an area. I use them on both slotted and unslotted bases. They work especially well on unbalanced models like hormagaunts and zoanthropes. I cover them with green stuff after the glue has set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2190357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesselowe Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I use 1" washers, superglued to the base. They're the same size, and weigh down plastics nicely. They probably won't work as well on unbalanced metal models, though, and I haven't looked for washers in larger sizes, like 40mm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2206498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Steel putty. its pretty weighty, and ries very quickly. For the future, I would consider buying some 'non slotta' bases, removing the greyknights tab and gluing a penny/equivilent to the underside of the base, and pinning the greyknight on (there will be a gap around the edge of the penny) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2206574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironblood Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Metal 1" washers are the EXACT same size as the bottom of a 25mm base but they are 5 for close to 3 dollars( hardly more practical than split lead shot at 1 pound of lead for 5 bucks). On all my non 40k miniatures I use 1"diameter washers. They weight down my necromunda figures and metal minis from other companies just fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2207286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 if you can get hold of them, 10 pfennig (pre-Euro German currency) coins are just about perfect for non-slotta bases. Old tabs from the bottom of models are popular roun dmy way too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2207615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Why would you not just use washers ?? That's way easier then all this other stuff (cutting nails, melting lead from tire weights ?? :huh: Prime them first so glue sticks better. Ironblood, I don't know where you are buying washers from, 5 for $3 !? At any hardware store a box of washers (40-50 or so) should less then $10. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2207631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironblood Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Why would you not just use washers ?? That's way easier then all this other stuff (cutting nails, melting lead from tire weights ?? ^_^ Prime them first so glue sticks better. Ironblood, I don't know where you are buying washers from, 5 for $3 !? At any hardware store a box of washers (40-50 or so) should less then $10. from lowes, the 1 inch by 1/16 of an inch washers that are actualy weighty and not 1/4" diameter paper thin washers that do nothing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2207810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starblayde Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I use 1" washers, superglued to the base. They're the same size, and weigh down plastics nicely. They probably won't work as well on unbalanced metal models, though, and I haven't looked for washers in larger sizes, like 40mm. Aye, 25mm/1" washers from any DIY shop work perfectly to weigh down all-plastic minis and give them a nicer feeling when handling, as well as providing a more solid base for unbalanced models (my 3rd company Standard Bearer, for instance, who I oddly decided should be thrusting his banner as forward and as high as it could get, meaning he fell over at every opportunity before I tacked the 25mm washer on). Plus they're cheap, as I picked up a handful for 5p each. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2207844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lendis Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 If you are inclined to use shot/bb's, Avoid the bb's as they are slightly bigger than the base. What you want is a #1 or #2 shot, this is steel, and both are smaller than the bb's and fit perfectly inside the base and weight it down conisderably. A Copper BB has a diameter of 4.57 mm, so you can either use the number one shot at 4.06 mm, or number 2 shot at 3.81 mm, both should fit flush inside the base. And they are easier to affix to the base than a washer and once glued in you wont have to worry about them falling out. You can typically buy these in bulk at gun shops that repack ammo. Although I would guess the price depends on the area your in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2337773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyzerker Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I'm going to second the steel putty, available in most decent hardware shops. It's completely customisable, allowing you to fill every single base imaginable, from infantry bases to terminator, bike, cavalry, dread and DP bases. Good stuff! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2430211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretic??ME?? Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 UK player here. I've being using 1 pence coins for ages. I cant really buy much with them and a company of marines is done for a pound sterling... cheap !! 2 pence coins almost fit perfectly on the bottom and raise the base a couple of mm's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2430249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentL Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 I bought some cheap washers and broke them in half and glued them in keeps my jump pack Chaplain from tipping. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2430255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33t h0b0 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Devon the simple and most effective way to add weight to the base is well as you mentioned shotgun pellets.( bird shot or shot by other names. ) You just need to find a place that sells it loose, ( like a gun or shooters pro shop ) they would use it to pack and load there own shells, but for us its perfect. When do manage to find a place that sells it, I would recommend getting a bag of #9 shot, ( the smaller the better. ) it should come in a canvas bag weighting about 11 Kg. ( 24 lb ) If you find this is too much to use trade or split the bag with friends. On a side note this stuff is or should no longer be LEAD, if that is your fear I believe now days its steel pellets. To add it to the bases, just FEW drops of PVA add the pellets and level them out and wait for it to dry, top it with a drop or two of superglue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2430817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSpike Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Similar to shotgun pellets or BBs, I found a supplier of fishing weights; small spheres of steel, cut nearly in half, for fixing to fishing line (I think, I'm not an angler). The larger sizes have to be split, and smaller ones fit in a slotta-base quite well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2430820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33t h0b0 Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Blackspike ?? how many fishing weights do you get for $25 ?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2431028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH34RB0T Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 On a side note this stuff is or should no longer be LEAD, if that is your fear I believe now days its steel pellets. I believe this to be incorrect... If I recall correctly, lead is the favorite metal to make shot out of because it is the cheapest by far. If you don't believe me, compare the prices between a box of regular (lead) shells and a box of steel shells. If you want lead-free pellets, you'd probably need to request or special order them specifically. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/184887-weighing-down-slotted-bases/#findComment-2431049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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