Jarl Bloodwolf Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 there has been alot of angry wolf players out their because do t the wording in the new codex it says that a frost weapon adds plus 1 to the characters strength and since they are one handed weapons many people think that they can take 2 and have plus 2 strength. then people get angry and say its not cumulative but i cant find where it says that in the rule book (i have the little one from the assault on black reach box). it just says under close combat weapons that if a model has two of the same special weapon he uses the rules for bolth weapons (that may not be worded exactly right) anyone know what page its on? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185037-frost-weapon-str-bonus/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 The rule is on page 42, the one with the close combat weapons, but it could have been made clearer. The entry for having two special CCWs is not refering to multiple weapons, just one weapon. "Two of the same special weapon" <-- Singular "All of their attacks (...) use the special weapon's bonuses and penalties." <-- Singular "the weapon's bonuses" refers to a single weapon. For multiple weapons it would be "the weapons' bonuses" Compare it to the entry for "A normal and a Special Weapon": "All of their attacks (...) benefit from the special weapon's bonuses." It uses the same term ("weapon's"), and is specifically only refering to the one single special weapon that model is using. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185037-frost-weapon-str-bonus/#findComment-2187580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Indeed, you will only ever use the rules of one weapon, even if you have two of the same weapon. The second weapon does nothing other than provide the bonus attack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185037-frost-weapon-str-bonus/#findComment-2187790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Legatus nailed in one post what took 16 pages to finally convince people of in the SW forum. *sighs* Bloodclaws.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185037-frost-weapon-str-bonus/#findComment-2187862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Legatus nailed in one post what took 16 pages to finally convince people of in the SW forum. :D then maybe they should have got themselves in here sooner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185037-frost-weapon-str-bonus/#findComment-2187867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Yeah.... half of them couldnt even find amicus Isiah.... they were that fresh from the camps. And most of them didnt know grammar either, so trying to use it as an argument was... painful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185037-frost-weapon-str-bonus/#findComment-2187870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Bloodwolf Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 Yeah.... half of them couldnt even find amicus Isiah.... they were that fresh from the camps. And most of them didnt know grammar either, so trying to use it as an argument was... painful. oh ok i got it now. thank you brothers their are some pups at my gaming club who are going to be throughly cowed now. they wouldent listen and i couldent find were it said it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185037-frost-weapon-str-bonus/#findComment-2187970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Legatus nailed in one post what took 16 pages to finally convince people of in the SW forum. *sighs* Bloodclaws.... Well it probably helps we had a near identical question involving a pair of wolfclaws just a few days ago, so all the research was pre-done by our hard working battle brothers of the Legio Official Rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185037-frost-weapon-str-bonus/#findComment-2188054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Glad to see we've mastered the answer to this question. :D Well played, Frosty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185037-frost-weapon-str-bonus/#findComment-2188064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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