xenofexx Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Now, since I'm not a Space Wolves player (or indeed any bigger a SW-fan than the average SM enthusiast), I might not be making any sense in what I'm about to propose.. But why do I never see any Space Wolves with horned helmets?? I mean, you're gimmicked up with all the other viking-stuff (beards, axes, runes, Norse names), so why not complete the whole get-up with Hagar-style headgear? :D http://whiskeyfire.typepad.com/photos/unca...08/18/hagar.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Because even vikings rarely, if ever, wore horned helmets historically. They were a fad that lasted less than a decade, and people hundreds of years later picked up the idea and ran with it. Horns are for drinking out of and making bows with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Because even vikings rarely, if ever, wore horned helmets historically. They were a fad that lasted less than a decade, and people hundreds of years later picked up the idea and ran with it. Horns are for drinking out of and making bows with. As soon as I saw the topic I was going to make the very same point. And also we're getting enough stick for not being serious enough and too much of a Norse (I dislike the term "Viking" for some reason) rip off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Actually, just to clrify, there is absolutely no historical (anecdotal or otherise) evidence to support vikings having horns on their helmets, its entirely a concoction of (compared to vikings) modern times. However, as I and my mate are fond of saying: Just because it never happened, doesn't mean it would never have happened if vikings had had much access to horns, and the inclination! Imagine the scene: Viking picks up drinking horn, drains it, grabs his mates, drains it... through bleary eyes he looks at what he has in his hands... and slowly, with a smirk on his lips, places them on his chest, shouting "look at my moobies Eric!". Later the next day, Eric awoke to find the horns stuck to his helmet.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Imagine the scene: Viking picks up drinking horn, drains it, grabs his mates, drains it... through bleary eyes he looks at what he has in his hands... and slowly, with a smirk on his lips, places them on his chest, shouting "look at my moobies Eric!". Later the next day, Eric awoke to find the horns stuck to his helmet.... You, sir win the thread! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 They did have access to horns... from Aurochs, some of the largest cattle to ever grace this planet with their obscenely dangerous presence. Because a big drinking horn could be downright huge :D. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Also does not one of the Wolves most hated enemies wear horns upon thier heads..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Jukes Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I have a plasma cannon long fang with one of the chaos marauder spiked helmets, and I like the look. I'm unopposed to the random scattering of horned helmets :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Actually early Scandinavians did use horned helmets for rare religious ceremonies, but the horns were metallic and part of the helmet. I think there are some pics in the osprey books or in one of McBride's historical illustrations. Otherwise Grey Mage and Mikal are 100% right. Vikings from 700Ad up definitely never had horns, but no one is stopping anyone from giving SW horns if they have such bad taste :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 What do you mean no Space Wolves have horned helmets?!?!? Mine do, see: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/Vash113/Space%20Wolves/IMG_0212-1.jpg I admit it's not the most fluffy or origional thing but it was a former 13th Company army and I decided to leave the horned helms in place... I think they look cool... :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 What do you mean no Space Wolves have horned helmets?!?!? Mine do, see: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/Vash113/Space%20Wolves/IMG_0212-1.jpg I admit it's not the most fluffy or origional thing but it was a former 13th Company army and I decided to leave the horned helms in place... I think they look cool... :D I take what I said back in your case. You do have good taste!!! :blush: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2187993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Oi, theres nothing wrong with them here and there, I just wouldnt make them a mainstay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 one of my wolf guard bikers has a horned helm lol http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w122/greatjojoman/PAINTED013.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I take what I said back in your case. You do have good taste!!! :D Haha, thanks. :D My favorite horned helmet in my army is this Wolf Guard actually: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/Vash113/Space%20Wolves/IMG_0565-1-1.jpg He's the only Wolf Guard with a horned helm though, I like to spread them out. If I am remembering right there's about 7 horned helmets in my army numbering 130 Marines so all is good in moderation. ;) That said I do recall some periods using horned helms either actual horn or metal as a way to absorb sword strikes power before they struck the helmet itself. But the popular image of massive bone horns going out to either side of a vikings helmet are way overblown and rediculous, but they have somehow worked their way into popular culture... I have to say though I much prefere horned helmets to horse hair or feather plumes (not the roman horse hair plumes, the giant ponytail things worn in late medieval and renaissance periods). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 It's too Chaos-y for me, and has really nothing to do with vikings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 It's too Chaos-y for me, and has really nothing to do with vikings. ^^^^^This. Just sayin'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veldrik Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Actually, just to clrify, there is absolutely no historical (anecdotal or otherise) evidence to support vikings having horns on their helmets, its entirely a concoction of (compared to vikings) modern times. However, as I and my mate are fond of saying: Just because it never happened, doesn't mean it would never have happened if vikings had had much access to horns, and the inclination! Imagine the scene: Viking picks up drinking horn, drains it, grabs his mates, drains it... through bleary eyes he looks at what he has in his hands... and slowly, with a smirk on his lips, places them on his chest, shouting "look at my moobies Eric!". Later the next day, Eric awoke to find the horns stuck to his helmet.... Gjermundbu http://www.vikingrune.com/2009/01/viking-helmet/ My reason for not having horns on their helmets: they are meant to follow wolves, not bison and elk (although Space Deer would be great for a Christmas themed army, like night goblins with some putty to make their hats fluffy, and fanatics with the balls decorated like Christmas tree baubles) My reason for having horns on their helmets: because we cop flak for being "space vikings" and even if they never had horns, who cares? just roll with it and go overkill so that they eventually get the idea that it doesn't really bother us :) Roll with what you want friend :P and you can also add in to the fluff that your squad of wolfies come from an area of fenris that has a large population of the horned kind of creature. elk, bison, buffalo, deer, moose, dragons etc - don't pick anything endangered however so not to offend, and point out that they were farmed for FOOD and the acquisition of horns is a by product. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I think that horns which effectively guide a sword or axe blow onto your head might be considered a liability during combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenofexx Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 I see many of you have already thoroughly thought the matter over :) I should of course have mention that I AM aware that the vikings didn't actually wear that kind of helmets (I'm from Norway, I would know :P), but still it seemed to fit into the whole Space Vikings-theme :P I don't suppose any of you guys have converted your SW to carry big barrels of mead, or even poisonous fungi (which some vikings ate before battle, or so popular history has it :)) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I see many of you have already thoroughly thought the matter over :) I should of course have mention that I AM aware that the vikings didn't actually wear that kind of helmets (I'm from Norway, I would know :P), but still it seemed to fit into the whole Space Vikings-theme :P I don't suppose any of you guys have converted your SW to carry big barrels of mead, or even poisonous fungi (which some vikings ate before battle, or so popular history has it :)) i have a grey hunter pack named after its "pack leader" Haegr Ale-Father...the entire pack have drinking steins attached to their belts and their Rhino has 4 kegs on it... WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
traitor_dice Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 So thats what I can use that WHFB dwarf helm for..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maznaz Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 A better question is why don't they wear flat nose-guard helmets. I think that would look awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucian Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Vikings didn´t have horns on there helmets, that´s just a myth that came alive in the 19th century. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglespuss Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 LOL, we've covered that :) perhaps read the rest of the thread? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Because there's much better things to do with horns? I like the idea the wolves aren't generally fans of helmets, admittedly they only mention the enclosed astartes helmets because they mess with the sense but because I have such trouble painting flesh I tend to have the majority helmered, they're operating on a planet with nil oxygen... I also don't like the look of helmeted heads, personal preference there. Plus I've read varying things and the Wolves do appreciate the act of subtlety sometimes, a giant set of horns might give the game away a bit, serving to make a large person even larger... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185058-sw-with-horned-helmets/#findComment-2188441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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