o3gan Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I play a counts as deathwing army and all deathwing players have been hit quite hard with the last codex. I have seen alot of people say that your wold guards in termy armour are a better force than the deathwing. I wanted to know can you play a pure terminator force in space wolves? or would it be a terminator heavy army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Hengist Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yes you can as long as you take Logan Grimnar as one of your HQ choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2194104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3gan Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 So if i take logan grimnar (a much cooler Character than Belial anywyay) i can take an army full of terminators Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2194455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmerlin Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yup. Your Wolf Guards become troops and you can kit them out in terminator armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2194458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3gan Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 My guys gunna get some greenstuffed beards! is the thing that makes The wold guard better that the deathwing the fact that they can have a full squad of power weapons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2194465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtRazor Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'd say it is probably due to the fact that our Wolfguards with Logan Grimnars assistans now has become troop choices that are all small individual heroes and can all be kited out individually with a free choice of weapons and wargear, so you can have all squads with handpicked combinations of weapons. Even have access to combiweapons! So there you have it... Terminator with wolfclaw and combimelta! Or the ultimate combo wolfclaw stormshield. Extremely fun to play around with :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2194476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I doubt they are much better than DW though, Wolfguard TDA gets more expensive and they cannot deepstrike. So they either need pods or they have to footslog. Just to give you the negative sides of this force, you have been warned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2194479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I doubt they are much better than DW though, Wolfguard TDA gets more expensive and they cannot deepstrike. So they either need pods or they have to footslog. Just to give you the negative sides of this force, you have been warned. Points-wise I don't think there's much of a difference (some upgrades cost more, but the base cost is nice and low so you can make savings by having a few, perfectly good, basic Termies). Lack of Deep Strike is a bigger issue, but Drop Pods solve some of the problem (albeit at an extra cost again). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2194518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yeah, unless you have pods our Terminators tend to lack the "HOLY CRAP TERMS" factor that a teleporting Deathwing force has. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2194523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3gan Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 so whats cheaper a basic deathwing squad or a basic wolf guard squad + a drop pod Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2194866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Comparing base costs (no weapon upgrades) Our Terminators: 180 for a squad of ten WG, 330 pts if you give them all Terminator armor, plus a 35pt Pod Base points cost for a DW term squad is 210 points for a squad of 5, and they don't need a pod to DS. Belial is a grand total of 130 points, while Logan is 275 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2195005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o3gan Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Comparing base costs (no weapon upgrades) Our Terminators: 180 for a squad of ten WG, 330 pts if you give them all Terminator armor, plus a 35pt Pod Base points cost for a DW term squad is 210 points for a squad of 5, and they don't need a pod to DS. Belial is a grand total of 130 points, while Logan is 275 so there quite alot cheaper not including characters how many assault cannons can you take in your squads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2195051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 so there quite alot cheaper not including characters how many assault cannons can you take in your squads? One heavy weapon for 5 Wolf Guard. So in practice 1 Assault Cannon if 5 men and 2 if 10 men. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2195085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Wolf Guard Terminators also get the new Heavy 2 Cyclones. They start 10 points cheaper than DW Termies (but aren't Fearless), but can be made to cost a whopping in excess of 60 points each! DW still have the Terminator Apothecary (If only that was FNP!), but miss out on the 3++ Storm Shiled the Wolf Guard can take. And while Logan is around twice the cost of Belial, Logan is so worth the extra points. Far better stats, Eternal Warrior, PF or S5 Power Wepaon in CC. Choice of 4 USR for himself and whatever squad he is attached to (each round) and +1A for him and units in range once per game. And we shouldn't forget the Wolf Guard all have Counter Attack. I think one of the benefits over the DW that the Wolf Guard have, is the ability to field variable Squad sizes. From 3 to 10. Edit: Oh and you could have a Lone Wolf in TDA, to keep the all Termy army, and frankly, they rock socks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185552-wolf-guard-pure-terminator-force/#findComment-2195218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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