Ragnar Blood Giver Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 ok brothers I have a sky claw pack of 10 with a WGBL and also a rune priest.. now as I see it... if they were to jump from a TH and DS. could my WGBL take 2 wolves with him? abide it would limit jump abilities for the SC's but with a rune priest in attendance, my WGBL and his 2 wolves could break away after DSing, so allowing the SC+RP to use their full movement. so short and simple can he do this my WGBL? to me yes he can, but.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185555-a-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 if your asking if a WGBL with jump p0ack and wolves can deep strike then no, as the wolves do not possess jump packs (the item granting him the deep strike ability) nor do they have it listed as part of their special rules. the WGBL and wolves can be put inside a drop pod to deepstrike but thats the only way im afraid... think of it like this, wolves are the very opposite of cats. where a cat will always land on its feet, wolves by their very nature will always land on their faces. no matter how hardy a fenrisian wolf is, being thrown out of a thunderhawk and told to flap isn't going to help it when its face meets the concrete. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185555-a-question/#findComment-2194188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Blood Giver Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 think of this.. strap them to some BC's with jump packs.... jump out and land, then deploy... I can't find any where in the book where it says it can not be done..? reason why I asked. on pg 85 at the bottom with the * sign. it says what it says, nothing more and as I said I can't find any other ruling saying it can't happern.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185555-a-question/#findComment-2194197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 im not saying he can't take them if he wears a jump pack, he can, they'd slow him down but he can definately take them. its just that the wolves don't have the deep strike rule and so wouldn't be able to deep strike into play. as they must remain within 2" of the character it means he can't either Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185555-a-question/#findComment-2194202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Blood Giver Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 cant they DS from a thunderhawk? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185555-a-question/#findComment-2194207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 if you mean in apocalypse where you are actually using a thunderhawk, then i think (and i may be wrong as its been several years since i last looked into taking one and the was the rules in IA) thats its not a 'deepstrike' as such more disembarking from a vehicle... if i remember then you simply deploy a unit anywhere alog its flight path. they may have changed the rules in the new datasheets to make it more like a valkyrie in the IG where any unit can deploy and i think they just have to roll a dangerous terrain check if its moved over a certain distance. i thought you were asking if a WGBL with jump pack and wolves could deep strike, in which case no they can't as i said above. if you meant can they deploy out of a thunderhawk that your using in you list, then if its treated as disembarking then sure. this would be in much the same way that a WGBL can take his wolves for a ride in a drop pod or land raider Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185555-a-question/#findComment-2194220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Blood Giver Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 now im confussed brother, and beg my foreberanch.... but even with the old dex were not BC's allowed to DS with jump packs using the DS rules? becaused I'm now really confussed. can SC (aba BC's) not DS? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185555-a-question/#findComment-2194244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 jump packs allow you to deepstrike, so any model with a jump pack gains that ability. you kept mentioning them deepstriking from a thunderhawk, so i wasn't sure if you were talking about actually taking a thunderhawk in a game and having them transported inside it. i assume you are simply asking if they are allowed to deepstrike (enter play from reserves, scatter all that jazz) and the answer is yes. any model with a jump pack may deepstrike. the fenrisian wolves taken as wargear by a character cannot deepstrike though because they lack either a jump pack or the deepstrike special rule. on the other hand, if you are asking if they can deploy from a thunderhawk (the 900pts+ jobby used in apocalypse games) then yes they likely can as i don't think that is deepstriking. withoyut looking at the thunderhawk rules, i think its along the same lines as deploying from anyother vehicle. tis only applies if you are talking abut taking one in a battle, where you pay the points and have the model on the table (or a proxy). im not talking about the fluff reasons as to why jumppacks can deepstrike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185555-a-question/#findComment-2194563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 think of it like this, wolves are the very opposite of cats. where a cat will always land on its feet, wolves by their very nature will always land on their faces. no matter how hardy a fenrisian wolf is, being thrown out of a thunderhawk and told to flap isn't going to help it when its face meets the concrete. Darn it! Now I have coffee on my computer screen! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/185555-a-question/#findComment-2195027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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