Ufthak Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 ***CAREFUL SPOILERS FOR HORUS HERESY SERIES*** Hello folks. I'm reading Fulgrim at the moment, and so far really like the Horus Heresy series (though what I hear from many people the next few books, with the exception of Legion, are rather bad, so I'm bracing myself for that). I have a question: In the third book, Galaxy in Flames, the 63rd Expedition's Mistress for Astropathy Ing Mae Sing is sacrificed to the Chaos Gods by Horus and Erebus. Just before she's killed, Horus tells her that he knows she sent a warning to someone, and if she told him to whom he would let her live. She refuses and is killed. Now...can anyone tell me whom she sent that message? At first I thought Magnus...but then, he already knew beforehand. It couldn't have been the Emperor or Malcador, since they both remain ignorant until the Flight of the Eisenstein. Any ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Gabriel Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I believe its been left up in the air to keep our imaginations swirling. However, even astro-telepathic messages take time to get to where there going and if Mistress Sing sent that message to someone in particular it wont be going through any relays so it may take longer. My money is on Malcador the Sigilite though if this is to ever be revealed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2202376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 the moderatii of the Dies Irae. i forgot his name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2202426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnDyzZzoRe Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Titus Cassur (sp?) if im not mistaken, or maybe Sindermann? i cant remember as i havent read the books in a few weeks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2202433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufthak Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hey folks, thanx for the answers. Nope, couldn't have been Kyril Sindermann or Titus Cassar, since, though they both have a gut feeling that something foul's afoot, only truly realize the heresy's happening during the battles for Isstvan III - Cassar when Princeps Turnet orders him to kill the loyal Death Guard after the Firestorm, and Sindermann when the Remembrancers get slaughtered. Plus, it makes little sense for Ing Mae Sing to send a warning to either one of these, since neither really commands enough power to alter anything. The logical choices would have been the Emperor, Malcador, another Primarch (preferably Magnus?), or at least high-ranking members of the Legions of whom she could be sure they would stay loyal. Dang it, I only hope this question gets answered at some stage, I'd really hate it if they just forgot to answer it...it feels the same like in "Lost", when you NEVER really find out what the Black Smoke thingy is...made me stop watching the series... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2202506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Who wrote Galaxy in Flames? I reckon it won't be picked up on in anything but future HH novels that that author writes. I doubt the other authors will touch it (if they noticed it). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2202525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayuzaki Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I'd have thought the Emperor or Malcador myself, just due to the Importance of the message and events, it's not the kind of thing you tell to someone who has no real importance or doesn't have the ability to do anything about it. Also I doubt she'd have sent it to Magnus as he already knew, unless she was just trying to say, 'Hey you know that whole Horus being a traitor thing, you were right eh? Guess I owe you a $20' :) Saying that she couldn't have known that but still I'd believe that kind of claim is for the emperor's ears only really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2203013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraOrk Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I thought it was Sindermann. Doesn't he hear a voice in his head warning him right before the section with the sacrifice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2203423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufthak Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Does he? I don't remember...perhaps I was thinking that it was Euphrati Keeler (again), she likes doing that, suddenly turning up in people's minds and utterly destroying their entire Weltanschauung... ;) Could have been Ing Mae Sing, makes sense, at least since it was right before the sacrifice and since she knew Sindermann was ok (they fought the Horror of Tzeentch together). Though it still hardly makes sense to warn a powerless, old, former iterator... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2203443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I could've sworn the warning was for Titus Cassar. it wasn't warning him about the heresy anyway it was warning him about the 'saint' (keeler was in danger) then Cassar and Sindermann save keeler from maggard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2203568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufthak Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Very strictly speaking, Keeler saves herself from Maggard, but I get your point :P Hm...so it must have been Sindermann or Cassar after all...somehow I was expecting something more grand, someone like Malcador or another Primarch. Nothing against Sindermann or Cassar though, both great guys! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2204163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutteman Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I think you're right, Ing Mae Sing sends a message to Sinderman when she realises Keeler is going to be killed, she is somehow found out and I think one of the reasons Horus is so willing to kill Her is her rebellion. Sorry nothing grand really... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186251-ing-mae-sing/#findComment-2205267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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