Commander Remiel Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Others are hard to guess. Anyone help me here? 1. Albia (Albania? Or possibly Italy, a reference to the ancient kingdom of Alba Longa?) 2. the war memorial in Albia, an "arch of white marble with dark iron statues on top" (the Arc de Triomphe in Paris? The Palazzo del Doge in Venice? The Brandenburger Tor in Berlin?) Albia could allude to Albion which is the name WHFB gives to the British Isles. Albion is actually an old Celtic/Gaelic name for the British isles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2205333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufthak Posted December 5, 2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2009 Reading Fulgrim, I came across two more locations to add to the list: Captain Balhaan of the Iron Hands reads about a "sea battle near Euboa, the battle of Artmision". This is, quite obviously, the battle of Artemision in the straight between the island of Euboia and the Greek mainland, which took place at the same date as the battle of Thermopylae. The battle was between the combined Greek fleet (mostly Athenians) and the Persians, and if my histories don't fail me, effectively ended in a sort of draw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2206043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashur Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I think that in "Legion", there are some mentions to the Caucasus as a place allied to the emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2206097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Caucasus: North Caucasus comprises: Russia (Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Adyghea, Kabardino-Balkaria, Karachai-Cherkessia, North Ossetia, Krasnodar Krai, Stavropol Krai) South Caucasus comprises: Georgia (plus disputed Abkhazia and South Ossetia) Armenia Azerbaijan (plus disputed Nagorno-Karabakh Republic) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2206190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashur Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Caucasus: North Caucasus comprises: Russia (Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Adyghea, Kabardino-Balkaria, Karachai-Cherkessia, North Ossetia, Krasnodar Krai, Stavropol Krai) South Caucasus comprises: Georgia (plus disputed Abkhazia and South Ossetia) Armenia Azerbaijan (plus disputed Nagorno-Karabakh Republic) Exactly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2206333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 in blood games Abnett mentioned Cebu which is most likely the same as Cebu, a province in the Philippines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2207584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vissah Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 In Mechanicum they talk about Kebira in the land of Gyptus. I'm pretty sure they mean Caïro in Egypt with that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2207633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufthak Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Yep, linguistically that would make sense. Another thing I came across in Fulgrim: They talk about a philosopher called Cornelius Blayke. Anyone know who the author is referring to? I couldn't find anything on the Internet... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2208909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Alaric Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Yep, linguistically that would make sense. Another thing I came across in Fulgrim: They talk about a philosopher called Cornelius Blayke. Anyone know who the author is referring to? I couldn't find anything on the Internet... If I'm thinking of the same character as you, I believe its inferred that he was a chaos cultist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2209593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Yep, linguistically that would make sense. Another thing I came across in Fulgrim: They talk about a philosopher called Cornelius Blayke. Anyone know who the author is referring to? I couldn't find anything on the Internet... i think this might be a combo of people, namely william BLAKE ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Blake) and Cornelius Agrippa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_Agrippa) both of the wiki articles say it better than i, but to sum it short, Cornelius was a occult writer and after hsi death numerous rumors existed about his summoning of daemons, while Blake has been called one of the fathers of modern anarchism. both people are covered in "The Occult: A History " by Colin Wilson. grabbing at straws...maybe. but makes some sense. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2209658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufthak Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 I was also thinking of William Blake. Love some of his pictures, they have something disturbing about them...especially the Red Dragon ;) This Cornelius Blayke guy also somehow - remotedly - reminded me of Oscar Wilde. But I guess WLK is right, probably a Blake + Agrippa, would make sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2209891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talsin Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 From Tales of Heresy (the Last Church) we have references to: The Mediterranean Dust Bowl and the Tali peninisula. This would imply that the Mediterranean has dried out (or been boiled away). The Tali peninsula is quite obviously Italy. Thought I would make my first post helpful. Kind regards Talsin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2211397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufthak Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Cetainly is useful, Talsin :) and welcome to B&C! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2211423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raulmichile Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 In fact it's not so difficult to dry out the Mediterranean Sea if for some reason the sea level lowers a little and/or some sort of barrier is erected in Gibraltar. The Mediterranean Sea has comparatively so few river afluents that evaporation is more than the water it can get back via pluvial routes. In short Mediterranean Sea survives only because it has a connection to the Atlantic, it cant sustain by itself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2211652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starblayde Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 This would imply that the Mediterranean has dried out (or been boiled away). As it is stated that all of the Earth's oceans were boiled away during cataclysmic events (wars, most likely), we're probably on to a winner here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2212489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerra Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Doesn't the sculptor guy in "Fulgrim" go on a daydream about how the alien world looks like Earth must've looked before the oceans and trees went bye-bye? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2214439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symeon Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I believe you are correct about the dream. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2214459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ufthak Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Yeah you're right about Ostian. Also, if one considers that Loken & Co. find an old map of Earth and it takes close scrutiny for them to even notice it's Terra a few thousand years back they're looking at, the planet must have massively changed. The way I see it, most of the Oceans must have gone by M31, as well as most of the vegetation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2214702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 We know at least one body of water is still around on Terra just before the Siege because of Blood Games, which mentions structures sinking into the relative safety of the depths. It'll be interesting to see the map in the new Horus Heresy game (if it is different in any way from the original). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2214847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgar 2.0 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Venice is referenced in the short story "Blood Games", it is called the Pit of Venezia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2214991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Venice is referenced in the short story "Blood Games", it is called the Pit of Venezia. Already been mentioned. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2215084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I was seriously considering having Constantin Valdor find the original US flag on the moon in my life of Roboute Guilliman story, but didn't, on the grounds that it would be gimmicky and a wee bit silly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2277198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spareknikov Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 The War Memorial in Albia... If Albia is Albion, which is, as mentioned, the isle of Britain, then the most famous War Memorial I can think of is Nelson's Column. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2277827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Err. Cenotaph anyone? http://thisfragiletent.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/cenotaph_london.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2278058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verythrax Draconis Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Oh yes, i forgot about that - Hy Brasil is present day Brazil. In the story Sao Paol is also mentioned, this has to be Sao Paulo. And the Planalto Central - the geographic region where Brasilia, Brazil's capital is situated, is mentioned, too :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186334-ancient-terra/page/2/#findComment-2278167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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