Ancient Terra

[malika666]

The Lost and the Damned book mentions that the Emperor fought in the "deserts of Amazonia". I guess this means that the areas surrounding the Amazon river have turned into a large desert once the river dried up...

[Walter Payton]

They definetely mention 'the air-formations of Roma' at one point.

[Spacefrisian]

I just wonder how life can sustain itself for so long after the oceans have dried up and trees have gone bye bye. Somehow it doesnt make sense.

[Rik Lightstar]

Nor does the idea that the oceans have evaporated, water is pretty stable, if there were no ice caps or oceans then the humidity would be horrendous, it'd be like breathing soup, plus I doubt people could live in the temperatures needed to sustain that. best not to apply science reality to science fiction, it stops working.

[Spacefrisian]

40k is more fantasy than sf (so some say)

[Brother_Kaelgrim]

Terra forming and pure Imperial willpower is how life survives! The Emperor wills it.

[Iron Father Ferrum]

In regards to the Solomon link and Sumatera, it could be that Sumatera isn't Sumatra, but a reference to Sumer/Sumeria, an ancient civilization at the head of the Persian Gulf. That at least would put Sumatera close to where Solomon lived.

 

As for where the Imperial Palace is located, I do believe that somewhere in Mechanicum, it is mentioned that the Fabricator-General built his personal forge at the Olympus Mons because he wasnted it at a higher elevation than the Imperial Palace. Everest is the highest point on Earth, and the Mons is the highest on Mars and has a higher above-ground-level altitude than Everest does.

[Spacefrisian]

In regards to the Solomon link and Sumatera, it could be that Sumatera isn't Sumatra, but a reference to Sumer/Sumeria, an ancient civilization at the head of the Persian Gulf. That at least would put Sumatera close to where Solomon lived.

 

As for where the Imperial Palace is located, I do believe that somewhere in Mechanicum, it is mentioned that the Fabricator-General built his personal forge at the Olympus Mons because he wasnted it at a higher elevation than the Imperial Palace. Everest is the highest point on Earth, and the Mons is the highest on Mars and has a higher above-ground-level altitude than Everest does.

 

 

The mount everest is not the highest mountain from foot to top on earth. Their is one bigger but he has a large part underwater.

 

Its called Mount Kenau.

[Ashe Darke]

Nor does the idea that the oceans have evaporated, water is pretty stable, if there were no ice caps or oceans then the humidity would be horrendous, it'd be like breathing soup, plus I doubt people could live in the temperatures needed to sustain that. best not to apply science reality to science fiction, it stops working.

If the average world temperature went up by 10 degrees pretty much all life on Earth would die so yeah things aren't looking good. Maybe they have really good AC?

[CorinoFan]

I think in The Lightning Tower, Dorn makes a direct reference to the picture of the sunflowers by Van Gogh in the chambers of Malcador

[Reyner]

I think in The Lightning Tower, Dorn makes a direct reference to the picture of the sunflowers by Van Gogh in the chambers of Malcador

That he does. There is also the Mona Lisa and some others as I recall B)

[Iron Father Ferrum]

In regards to the Solomon link and Sumatera, it could be that Sumatera isn't Sumatra, but a reference to Sumer/Sumeria, an ancient civilization at the head of the Persian Gulf. That at least would put Sumatera close to where Solomon lived.

 

As for where the Imperial Palace is located, I do believe that somewhere in Mechanicum, it is mentioned that the Fabricator-General built his personal forge at the Olympus Mons because he wasnted it at a higher elevation than the Imperial Palace. Everest is the highest point on Earth, and the Mons is the highest on Mars and has a higher above-ground-level altitude than Everest does.

 

 

The mount everest is not the highest mountain from foot to top on earth. Their is one bigger but he has a large part underwater.

 

Its called Mount Kenau.

 

Yeah -- but its under water, which means that Everest reaches higher into the sky. My point stands; its the wording that was shoddy.

[jeffersonian000]

I just noticed in Legion, pg 154, Abnett mention the Great Wall of Zhongguo being rumored to be visible from near orbit, while the Imperial Palace could be seen from Mars. This is obviously a reference the Great Wall of China.

 

SJ

[EPK]

I just noticed in Legion, pg 154, Abnett mention the Great Wall of Zhongguo being rumored to be visible from near orbit, while the Imperial Palace could be seen from Mars. This is obviously a reference the Great Wall of China.

 

SJ

 

Yes, Yes it is. A quick search of that word and the first thing that pops up is "China". Zhongguo is actually a real world Mandarin Chinese term for China. It translates to "Middle Kingdom"

[spu00sed]

I just noticed in Legion, pg 154, Abnett mention the Great Wall of Zhongguo being rumored to be visible from near orbit, while the Imperial Palace could be seen from Mars. This is obviously a reference the Great Wall of China.

 

SJ

 

I've never liked that quote.

 

The Earth is just as dot of light from Mars. Which means to see any feature you need a telescope.

 

If you got a telescope and you are on the planet of the machinists then it will be dam good so anything on Earth should be visible.

[Raulmichile]

If you got a telescope and you are on the planet of the machinists then it will be dam good so anything on Earth should be visible.

 

Yes indeed. <_<

[Calgar 2.0]

I was seriously considering having Constantin Valdor find the original US flag on the moon in my life of Roboute Guilliman story, but didn't, on the grounds that it would be gimmicky and a wee bit silly

 

I think you should have written thatin there. I think it might seem a bit silly, but its a nice touch.

 

I just noticed in Legion, pg 154, Abnett mention the Great Wall of Zhongguo being rumored to be visible from near orbit, while the Imperial Palace could be seen from Mars. This is obviously a reference the Great Wall of China.

 

SJ

 

Finally, Chinese 101 in High School is good for something. Chinese is this in Chinese, 中國Zhōng guó China; Chinese. Hope ya learned something. :P

[Liquid_awesomes]

During the HH, Terra was still quite a nice planet. It mentions in the second half of 'Blood Games', people skating on a giant outside frozen lake. However, the sheer scale of 10'000 years of industrial/religious change would ruin it. Think of the 'damage' we are supposed to have done in the space of 200 years. In fifty times that, the planet would probably be unreconisable to most.

 

Also, the fanatical religious side of the 40k Imperium covered most of the planet in temples and effergies to the emperor. The SoB headquaters covers an entire continent by its self. Any oxygen/water/foodstuffs are probably shipped in to keep the planet alive. In 'Fulgrim', one of the remembrancers comments on the oceans of the Laeran, and how Terras had been boiled away by some long forgotten war.

 

Another thing to change the face of the planet would be the siege of Terra. The sheer scale of the orbital bombardments and ground weapons would undoubtedly scar the planet on a huge scale.

[malika666]

In regards to the Solomon link and Sumatera, it could be that Sumatera isn't Sumatra, but a reference to Sumer/Sumeria, an ancient civilization at the head of the Persian Gulf. That at least would put Sumatera close to where Solomon lived.

 

As for where the Imperial Palace is located, I do believe that somewhere in Mechanicum, it is mentioned that the Fabricator-General built his personal forge at the Olympus Mons because he wasnted it at a higher elevation than the Imperial Palace. Everest is the highest point on Earth, and the Mons is the highest on Mars and has a higher above-ground-level altitude than Everest does.

 

 

The mount everest is not the highest mountain from foot to top on earth. Their is one bigger but he has a large part underwater.

 

Its called Mount Kenau.

 

Yeah -- but its under water, which means that Everest reaches higher into the sky. My point stands; its the wording that was shoddy.

 

But note that Earth's seas have been evaporated. That and also that a large part of the Mount Everest was cut off to supply the materials for the Imperial Palace...

[Spacefrisian]

What he said.

[Arioch]

It does not matter if the seas are gone when measuring hight. Everest is still much higher, as you would measure from the bottom of the sea and up.

[malika666]

You begin measuring from the lowest point, if there are no seas that other mountain would thus be way higher because it starts at a way lower point than the mount everest...

[Iron Father Ferrum]

Everest reaches higher into the sky. Its peak is closer to the edges of the atmosphere, therefore in a conventional sense, it is taller. This is a pointless contest in pissing, however, since the bulldozed the Himalayas to build the palace anyway.

[malika666]

Is there any more info on the Middle East? More specifically on the area that today is known as Israel?

[Iron Father Ferrum]

Is there any more info on the Middle East? More specifically on the area that today is known as Israel?

 

Not that I've seen, though the land itself is probably still there. One of the human characters from A Thousand Sons was from a city in North Africa and claimed that the Mediterranean had gone dry and become a giant dust-bowl, but that's about the closest to Israel I've heard of.