Predator Annihilator

[Joasht]

I happen to have one sitting in my house (bought it for my vanilla space marine army in 3rd ed, back when annihilators were cheap to field), so I was wondering, should I repaint it to join my space wolves? Feels kinda pricey...

 

What do you guys think?

Thanks!

[WG Vrox]

fi its a either or, then Long Fangs over Pred Annih, but there is nothing wrong with having them both on the field. I run mine with just the TLLC for 105 as I like to keep mine moving every turn for position and assault reasons.

 

Vrox.

[Joasht]

Problem is my Annihilator has Lascannon sponsons, and I think I kinda fixed them on pretty tightly, unlikely I can pry them off ><

[Ullr Direfang]

for fun games they "don't have to be there".

[Joasht]

Thats true......but its not so much the fun games I'm worried about, its rather "what if" I have to use it as WYSIWYG? I try to make my armies as WYSIWYG as I can get them ><

 

Although I'm guessing my LongFangs will see alot more play....

[Lord Commander Andrew]

In my experience, 48 inches i quite a lot of range and with an annihilator you can camp a spot and pop shots at vehicles or also use it to pick off powerful units. I'd definitely take one in any marine or wolf army.

[earthen]

the anhilator is too pricey. Go with a destructor with las sponsons. In reality, you have anti AV 13/12 (las) anti AV 12/11 (Autocannons, MLs) and then anti AV 14 (melta, str 10)

 

So if you go Ac/Las you get a decent target overlap and save a hefty chunk of points. 165 is too much.

[bravelybravesirrobin]

I agree with earthen, the lascannons won't do squat against av13 av14 targets for which you need melta wepaonry meaning the pred is there for sub av12 armour against which the auto-cannon is a much better weapon.

 

Cheaper and better, yeah, get that one.

[Nadir]

As Bravelybravesirrobin said - destructor all the way.

[khairney]

i always take a destructor with LC sponsons. makes a good all rounder.

[Hfran Morkai]

I have two annihilators with removable magnetised sponsons but I might buy up another two predators to use as razorbacks with a twin linked assault cannon turret (using those lovely bitz packs) and then make up autocannon turrets and heavy bolter sponsons.

 

A tri-las is too expensive, especially with the move towards melta weapons in fifth.

[Wolf Lord Jukes]

I say keep it. My predator annihilator w\ LC sponsons (and hunter-seeker missile, no less) has earned the name "Jimkiller" for single-handedly defeating the armies of one of the people in my group (who while remain nameless)

 

That being said, I'll usually run my predator destructor w\ LC sponsons purely because of points. However, against some armies, that twin-linked LC on top is pure gold, and although many on here will mock the use of a hunter-seeker missile, that too adds to its ability to inflict damage to a target. The main targets I've found it to be best against are Tyranid MC, terminator squads, leman russ battle tanks, and the like. Sometimes getting within 12" with a multi-melta or 6" with a meltagun proves more difficult than it seems, and 48" will almost always be in range of some juicy target. Also, against those termies and 2+ armor save MC that extra lascannon shot can be the difference of the game.

 

Just my two cents :huh:

[Yeti]

In anything over 1700, I never leave the Fang without one. Sure it's expensive, but it can cause all kinds of damage!

 

It's pure gold against medium armor, still quite capable against AV13/14 because it gets three shots and is a marvelous elite/MC killer. It's big advantage is the range of the lascannons. You can sit it in your DZ near some buildings (for the cover they provide) and shoot all game long, reching easily 85% of the board. Anything stuck in the corners are Scout bait!

 

Sure, the points investment is high, but played well it's more than worth it IMO.

[Terrahawk]

Points-wise I think the Destructor offers more bang for your buck in majority of situations.

 

However, the Annihilator is such a fluffy choice for a SW army I'd recommend one based purely on that. ;)

And it does turn most things into burning wreckage after all...

[Kreidian]

I have exactly one predator annihilator in my entire army. And the main reason why I have one is for fluff reasons since Space Wolves were the first to use them.

 

However in smaller games I prefer to run Long Fangs as much as possible, I find it very effective to give them a Razorback for the ultimate in long range punch. That's a lot of Las fire you can target anywhere and anything on the board.

 

Even for larger games I'd rather bring a Land Raider so I can move my troops into position. But then the whole style of my army is more infantry based and therefore I tend to prefer transports whenever possible.

[Freman Bloodglaive]

I have lots of Long Fangs, and one Annihilator, but I still field it occasionally. Armour 13 is pretty tough and as already said, 48 inches is a lot of range.

[Marshal Wilhelm]

Auto Cannon chance of DESTROY versus the following armour;

 

AV 10 = 22.2%

AV 11 = 14.8%

AV 12 = 7.4%

 

Twinlinked Las Cannon.

 

AV 10 = 24.7%

AV 11 = 19.75%

AV 12 = 14.8%

AV 13 = 9.9%

AV 14 = 4.9%

 

I'll leave it up to you to decide if it is worth it, bang for bucks wise....

[nurglespuss]

pred annihilator : 165pts

 

longfangs (4 las-cannons): 175pts

 

Now, I would never field a longfang squad armed thus, but if its tank killing power you want (and surely the lascannon is still the superior weapon at range) then I would take the 6 wound unit, in cover.

 

However, in my last game, I had a pred anihilator sniping me all game, because it was well positioned and always had a cover save. Plus even without the coversave armour 13 front, is very respectable.