Oldenhaller Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 more akin to the chaplain http://proximity.orconhosting.net.nz/Figures/EC/Finished%20Army/bikes1.jpg they're beautiful. There are a fair few teutorials out there for making them....still trying to find the wolf ones... ~O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2208859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe so, but I wouldn't let fluff get in the way of a counts as model. Remember if that were the case, bikes would be disqualified completely. You have a point but if you look at my signature you'll see the way I roll. Myself, I am not keen on taking TWC anyway unless there happen to be some awesome sculpts for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2208865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I like those a lot. Now if they were used as counts as TWC, I wouldn't have a problem with it. They are very different when compared to the bikes. A few questions though. I am not too sure about rulings and game mechanics, but are they considered skimmers? Would that interfere with dangerous terrain, buildings, etc? Would players try to take advantage of them in this fashion? Or do the jetpacks act like bikes? What is the difference between a TWC and a jetbike, when it comes to movement? Maybe so, but I wouldn't let fluff get in the way of a counts as model. Remember if that were the case, bikes would be disqualified completely. You have a point but if you look at my signature you'll see the way I roll. Myself, I am not keen on taking TWC anyway unless there happen to be some awesome sculpts for them. Yes I see. Very Loyal! :) As for the sculpts, we haven't see anything yet that is really appropriate, so I can't say that I blame you. You know something else that I have been thinking of? Zoid Wolves! Can you imagine these things pimped out on some scenic bases, painted up in Space Wolf colors? http://www.deviantart.com/download/128168521/Zoids_Screensaver_by_Wolf_Empress666.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2208868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taeken Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I like those a lot. Now if they were used as counts as TWC, I wouldn't have a problem with it. They are very different when compared to the bikes. A few questions though. I am not too sure about rulings and game mechanics, but are they considered skimmers? Would that interfere with dangerous terrain, buildings, etc? Would players try to take advantage of them in this fashion? Or do the jetpacks act like bikes? What is the difference between a TWC and a jetbike, when it comes to movement? Maybe so, but I wouldn't let fluff get in the way of a counts as model. Remember if that were the case, bikes would be disqualified completely. You have a point but if you look at my signature you'll see the way I roll. Myself, I am not keen on taking TWC anyway unless there happen to be some awesome sculpts for them. Yes I see. Very Loyal! :) As for the sculpts, we haven't see anything yet that is really appropriate, so I can't say that I blame you. You know something else that I have been thinking of? Zoid Wolves! Can you imagine these things pimped out on some scenic bases, painted up in Space Wolf colors? http://www.deviantart.com/download/128168521/Zoids_Screensaver_by_Wolf_Empress666.jpg Are those mechs from that old Lyger anime? They sure look like it. And that show wasnt too bad either :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2209209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmerlin Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I've just received the wolves from MrsVelard on Ebay. Wow, these things look good! The picture on ebay doesn't do them justice! No regrets getting them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2209529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I've just received the wolves from MrsVelard on Ebay. Wow, these things look good! The picture on ebay doesn't do them justice! No regrets getting them! Great news! Also do you know how long ago you ordered them? I bought mine alost two weeks ago, she had only sold around 8 when I bought them. By the next day she had sold 80. Hopefully mine will be in soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2209990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I've just received the wolves from MrsVelard on Ebay. Wow, these things look good! The picture on ebay doesn't do them justice! No regrets getting them! You got a link? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2210157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Haha, I have a couple Ligers gathering dust somewhere at home, and a Berserk Fuhrer. Used to be CRAZY about that anime. Sadly, these are way too big for our scale... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2210173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I've just received the wolves from MrsVelard on Ebay. Wow, these things look good! The picture on ebay doesn't do them justice! No regrets getting them! You got a link? Post #40 of this thread has a picture of them. Post #36 is my take on their worth. They look to be very good models. Mrs Verlard has sold over 200 of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2210183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 thanks' oh...yeah. I ordered one of those too. Haven't got it yet. Hopefully it's as good as EvilMerlins says they are. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2210212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Okay I plan on having a few more of these converted, so this is a taste of whats coming. I made these using the Fenris Wolf from the newest Heroclix set, Hammer of Thor. Several of them have been repositioned, and all of them have added greenstuff for the armor plates, saddles, etc. These should start to look better once I throw some paint on them, so check back later for some more pics. I have two more Thunderwolves that are in the process of being converted, so I will post them later on. So far I have been told to add tumors, cybernetic parts, and more armor plates to their back/neck region. I was shooting for a Fangir look, so some of those ideas I might have to pass on, (i didn't really get the tumors suggestion, but I wrote it down anyway). Anyways let me know what you think of these conversions. My favorite one, and the third one that I made. I feel like I was getting better with each attempt: http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/Thunderwolf3.jpg My least Favorite. I am thinking of ripping the rider off and trying it again: http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/Thunderwolf2.jpg This one retained the original position of the Fenris Wolf and was the first one I made. The others had a lot of repositioning: http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/Thunderwolf1.jpg A Comparison Pic: http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq346/lord_scythican/thunderwolfsize.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Thanks for the pics Lord Scythican, you're a man of your word! I like the work you've done with the models, especially the poses. Very dynamic, particularly the one with raised shield (it gives me an idea for a diorama). And you were spot on about the size comparisons. I think you hit the jack pot with these figures. They're cheap, the right size, fierce looking and not hard to pose ( I presume they are plastic). A pity they are not Citadel models, since they would have been legal as well. But to hell with that. Thanks a million. <_< Edit: If I may pass a comment, looking again at the one with the raised shield (because I like it so much) I noticed that it is positioned a bit too far down. It doesn't take anything away from impact of the figure, but might look awkward from certain angles, but it is hard to tell from a pic. Anyway, keep up the good work and I hope to see your next two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Thanks for the pics Lord Scythican, you're a man of your word! I like the work you've done with the models, especially the poses. Very dynamic, particularly the one with raised shield (it gives me an idea for a diorama). And you were spot on about the size comparisons. I think you hit the jack pot with these figures. They're cheap, the right size, fierce looking and not hard to pose ( I presume they are plastic). A pity they are not Citadel models, since they would have been legal as well. But to hell with that. Thanks a million. :lol: Edit: If I may pass a comment, looking again at the one with the raised shield (because I like it so much) I noticed that it is positioned a bit too far down. It doesn't take anything away from impact of the figure, but might look awkward from certain angles, but it is hard to tell from a pic. Anyway, keep up the good work and I hope to see your next two. The would almost pass the 50% GW model rule. I think If I added some big banner to their backs (Samurai Style), then that plus the base and space marine might go for the 50%. Not sure though, but I am tempted to weigh the components. As far as being legal, to hell with it like you said. I play locally, and since GW does not have an official model or plans to make one, I think I coudl get by with this anyway. As far as repositioning them, well they are plastic, but it is thick so do not try it with an exacto knife. My wife kind of laughed at me when I was cutting them, (I was using one of the tree loppers that you cut branches off with. The heads flew off pretty easy with that big thing.) You are right about the guy with the shield. He was the first one that got a rider added, so I think I screwed him up. I took 5 pictures before I found an angle decent enough to show you all. I might pull him off of there if I can and repostion him some. You do like the marine, just not where he is sitting right? I wanted the shield up like he was blocking incomming fire. I hope it worked. As soon as my batteries recharge I will post some pics of the other two. They do not have riders, but the greenstuff from the repositioning is not painted so you can see what I did to alter their poses. Look for them later today. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I wanted the shield up like he was blocking incomming fire. I hope it worked. Sorry to interrupt, but if You want him to block incoming fire, then lower down his other hand with thunder hammer. Just try to imagine that You are holding a shield in front of you, the weapon stretched out in the other hand does not feel right (I'm doing a bit of medieval historical reenactment as a hobby, so I know these things). You may also want to rotate his torso and incline his head a bit probably. The idea is to get as much of Your body behind the shield as possible and not to show anything out. I'd suggest to place the right hand horizontal along the saddle, if the plastic allows that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I wanted the shield up like he was blocking incomming fire. I hope it worked. Sorry to interrupt, but if You want him to block incoming fire, then lower down his other hand with thunder hammer. Just try to imagine that You are holding a shield in front of you, the weapon stretched out in the other hand does not feel right (I'm doing a bit of medieval historical reenactment as a hobby, so I know these things). You may also want to rotate his torso and incline his head a bit probably. The idea is to get as much of Your body behind the shield as possible and no to show anything out. I'd suggest to place the right hand horizontal along the saddle, if the plastic allows that. Makes since...unless your enemy is firing down upon you from the top of a Chaos Bastion!!!! :lol: Sorry about that...I have been playing Planetstrike a lot lately, and when I play warhammer 40K someone always has a sniper of some sort raining fire down upon my troops. Probably the main problem is that the rider was made for a standing position, and if it was standing, his body wouldn't be angles that way and the shield would be right in front of him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Still, the enemy is in front of You, isn't it? So, 45 degree angle of the shield is just right. In addition, if he's firing from above, just raise Your shield a little bit - waiving hammer in the other hand won't help :lol:. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Once again I wasn't very clear with what I was writing, I have a habit (I'll have to find help with a 'Write-what -you-mean' anonymous). The marine is fantastic and I think it has a pose that tells a story and is worthy of a diorama. I was referring to his sitting position on the wolf's back as you said. I think it would look more natural if he was further up. That all. Thanks. @CainTheHunter: You're not interrupting, At the Fang we value all opinions, at least I do! :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Still, the enemy is in front of You, isn't it? So, 45 degree angle of the shield is just right. In addition, if he's firing from above, just raise Your shield a little bit - waiving hammer in the other hand won't help :tu:. Maybe he is getting ready to smash an ork in the face too? I like your suggestions. Raising the shield and rearing back his hammer looks like it has depth, and the pose looks to be telling story like Night Runner said "worthy of a diorama". Its the position of the marine that is throwing it off. If he is moved further up, the shield and the arm will look better hopefully. But pretty much you don't like the hammer right? I will lower it down some and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestions, they will help a great deal. Now is there anything positive that you like about the models.? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 But pretty much you don't like the hammer right? I will lower it down some and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestions, they will help a great deal. Now is there anything positive that you like about the models.? No, I actually like the hammer. Maybe the angle of the picture is not clear enough - just the way I usually assemble miniatures, I try not to pose both arms at the same level. Well, it's difficult to explain, but see Your other two models are following some natural simmetry - hand with chansword is raised, bolter is at the middle level, or other way round. THe marine with hammer has both hands up and it makes no message. IMO the ideal pose, if he also wants to smash somebody, would be where he is holding hammer sideways and a little bit back, like he's preparing to smash into and then deliver powerful blow. Dunno if I made myself clear, if not I will try to find some picture of cavalry charge. But speaking in terms of GW plastic, to create such pose, You will have to cut the hand above elbow and rotate it. I just glued TH on my scout-leading WG, so I know that reposition and conversion will be necessary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 Ok, now mine freshly converted high elves lions are useless :/ Maybe I will change them into cyber wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Scythican Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Ok, now mine freshly converted high elves lions are useless :/ Maybe I will change them into cyber wolves. Yours probably look more like the art in the codex than mine. They seem to have more of a lion look, especially the Fenrisian Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taeken Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Awesome conversions! I am currently awaiting 3 of the same Fenris wolves from Thor. Seeing your TWC makes me happy that I went with them. Wasnt 100% sure about the scale, but it looks just fine. I was thinking about slapping some extra (converted) Dread pieces as cyber enhancements. I will post once I try my hand at making my TWC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Yours probably look more like the art in the codex than mine. They seem to have more of a lion look, especially the Fenrisian Wolves. No, they don't. They are mostly green stuffed:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186615-new-plastic-twc/page/3/#findComment-2212952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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