Joasht Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I've been constructing both my wolfguard and grey hunters from the new Space Wolf miniatures, but looking through the codex it seems that the only difference between the two would be the color of their squad markings. I've been thinking of some ways: 1) Put a wolf pelt on every WG member. Seems feasible if you never intend on having a Logan Grimnar WG-heavy army, especially because people don't sell the wolf pelt by itself on Ebay thus making it extremely expensive. 2) I've personally been "diluting" my wolves with bits from the normal space marine squads and some less-chaosy chaos space marine bits, as I feel having too many wolf symbols makes for a rather messy miniature. Perhaps keep the "diluted" models as GH's, and the "purely made from the SW sprue" figures as WG? 3) Maybe just add more battle damage to the WG, making them look more weathered. For those of you who use the same box to construct both types of units, how do you guys differentiate them? Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Anonymous Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 This doesn't apply specifically to Space Wolves, but I like searching for bits to create old Marks of armor and give them to the veterans in my armies. Alternatively, give the Vets the newer stuff to show their privileges. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjaertrr Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Mine are differentiated entirely by pack markings/ colours, my dedicated rhinos for each squad bear the same pack markings as the squad itself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I basically do what you do Joasht. All my GH (as well as the BC) have normal marine legs and normal marine backpacks. I only give the newer legs and backpacks to the WG. I also paint all the ornamentaion and lining on the WG in bronze (in fact I fondly call them the 'bling Boyz'). The WG also have more 'trophies' and pelts than the GH, while the BC have none. I also put what I like to call a 'rune of Acceptance' on the BC shoulder pad. The idea is that a BC will fight hard to get rid of it and take his place among the GH. You can also try putting wolf necklaces on the WG shoulderpads made out of GS. They are very easy to make. I have a few pics on my blog I think. Besides the weapons and the pack markings that is basically it. If you want more pelts I suggest taking a look at stinkenheim's theads. He has a good tutorial of building pelts from scratch with GS. They are not difficult at all, you just have to build the thing in two or three stages (don't try and build it in one go). I hope it helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psephos Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I added the tiny standards to the backpacks of my Power Armored Wolfguard. It looks good and is a nice visual marker of who the Grey Hunters and Blood Claws should be rallying around. Psephos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I added the tiny standards to the backpacks of my Power Armored Wolfguard. It looks good and is a nice visual marker of who the Grey Hunters and Blood Claws should be rallying around. Psephos That's a great idea, never thought of it. I might try it out as well, and see how they look. Thanks :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearboy Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 My Blood claws, Grey Hunters and long fangs were built using the old sprue and other bits and peices. I had made up a few Power armoured Wolf gaurd with various weapon loadouts and am gonna use my box of new models to create some more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joasht Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks for the replies! To be honest I'm a little lazy to sculpt pelts for all my WG, I'm already toying with the very real possibility of making a Logan WG army, so the thought of having to sculpt somewhere in the range of 30-50 pelts scares me haha I added the tiny standards to the backpacks of my Power Armored Wolfguard. I'm going to go off topic for a bit here... I was actually thinking of using the tiny standards to represent the GH Standard as it might be costly to purchase multiple command squads just for the banners. What do you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Darkblood Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Space Wolves have their own standard bearer and he's sold solo. He's found in the troops section of the Space Wolves page on the GW website. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joasht Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Kind of looks like an old model with a new bolter and backpack strapped on to be honest haha Plus, I think the command squad + wolf guard bits model would look more personalized than a standard metal one. But anyway back to the WG thing, I was also thinking of minimizing the number of bare heads in my GH squads (maybe like 3 per 10 models or so), while the WG would have more bare heads than helmeted heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreidian Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 It's very simple, all power armored Wolf Guard in my army use the Wolf headed backpacks that you can get from the old accessory sprue: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...otCatGameStyle= I also use the shoulder pad to distinquish my wolfguard further. You don't need that many these days, plus most of the wolf guard will be in terminator armor which is easy to distinguish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I use shoulderpad colours like this: Bloodclaws: orange Greyhunters: yellow Wolfguard: 1 yellow, 1 red Longfangs: White Lonewolves: can have any of above if you read fluff correct Wolfguard Battleleaders: Red Runepriest: 1 red, 1 black Wolfpriest: Black Wolflord: Same as rest of armour Iron Priest: Red with metal colour trim SW Scouts: same as armour Thunderwolf cav.: grey Pretty simple. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inoki Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I will be using the backpack ideas along with the coloring of shoulder pads. Also, my Wolf Gaurd have much different gear than my Bloodclaws or even Grey Hunters, so that makes it easier as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 2 Ways- 1, Ive been mixng tactical squad peices into wolf packs for my normal guys, and doing almost all new stuff for my new WG, though my old WG were already kinda blinged. The other way is their pack markings- every GH pack has its own distinct mark, each WG *will* have its own combination mark. IE- GHs get one rune, black on red, while all WG get two runes, Yellow on black, and Characters get a third, or even four runes in whatever color is appropos for their type. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 my wolfguard all have the old metal long fang legs, the old wolf pelt on the back, the old wolf head backpack and are on 40mm bases... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Why 40mm? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 i am currently thinking of giving my WG models terminator legs to replace my current ones. What do you guys think? A waste of terminator legs or not? bear in mind that i am using 5 of them without terminator armour. 4 are SW terminator legs and 1 isn't. Or using slate as rocks to elevate them or just give them a pose different from the rest :). thanks antique_nova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Well how many Grey Hunters do you see with Thunder Hammers and Storm Bolters? It's my theme and makes them easily identifiable considering I don't follow the codex guide to pack markings, I simply have different colours to make forming packs easier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahorsecalledwar Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Try this for a laugh. When makeing my GH/BC/WG i give them all a theme. I have mostley all the same body and legs but i try to seperate there looks so they dont all blend in and this is because no 2 wolf looks the same in the wild. Its also a really nice way for you to see the progress of your painting. ill give ya some E.G GH squad 1 my 1st squad of GHs. Badley painted but a cracking start. Very dark armor no highlights just basic. GH squad 2. Slightley lighter than last squad but i gave them all a head swap so every member of the squad has no hair and no helmet. GH squad 3 Gave them all a linked chain hanging from right sholder pad. Same base coat as last squad. GH squad 4 is WIP and im thinking of ideas. My WG are draped in WTN/WTT and WP just so they look like honerd heros. Simple little things can make a unit really stand out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 @ grey mage its party because i use a lot of scenic bases for my army and as such it means i have a larger area to work with. also it means that they stand out more inside units. no other reason really other than it looks better imo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 All my WG have the shoulder pad with the wolf skull, thats it, its all thats needed for me and should be visible for my opponent Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindaris Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Bases. And cooler weapons. I'm magnetizing my wolf guard arms to make them interchangable and I tend to give the cooler looking armor to my special models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2208731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I currently have 4 WG pack leaders. They all have the wolf head backpacks, the old wolf pelt and the wolf skull shoulder pad. If and when I make more WG in power armor (as a unit or bodyguard) I'll give them the SW terminator Honor shoulder to show that they are qualified to use TDA even if I have decided not to field TDA at the moment. Other than that...pack colors and more gold or bronze accents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2209069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karack Blackstone Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I use the Wolf Headed Shoulder Pads with the heads on one side, facing forwards. They tend to stand out, and most if not all my GH's are old models with a Fist and a Bolter, while the WG are Fist and Bolt Pistol. As far as the rest of the bits, I use the knife torso front and generic rear, and the Wolf Tail Backpack. I seem to be able to find them, and avoid removing them until really late in the game, if I even need to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2209117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Mine have the old Wolf head backpacks. Also, each WG gets individual heraldry on his shoulder, instead of a pack marking. I wanted each to appear more as an individual knight in the king's circle, rather than as just another unit in the army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/186755-differentiating-your-wg-and-gh-with-the-new-models/#findComment-2209130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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