Can a Rhino obscure a Land Raider?

[Gurth]

As several people have pointed out, the location of the observer is relevant.

And here's an illustration of that:

The left Marine can't see the Land Raider at all, really, while the one on the right can see the upper quarter or so of it (this ignores the bits sticking in front of and behind the Rhino, obviously).

This is for a Rhino parked right next to the Land Raider; if the distance between them were to increase but the position of the right Marine relative to the Rhino doesn't, he'll see still less of the Land Raider. An illustration of that would become even wider, though, so I haven't made one.

[thade]

Surely, if the firer was on the third or fourth level of a ruin he'd see the top of the Land Raider and the Rhino may no longer obscure. =) But from the tabletop, irregardless of distance, I'm pretty sure it would.

[Veldrik]

As several people have pointed out, the location of the observer is relevant. If a model is sufficiently tall, it begins to see the Raider's top profile in addition to its side profile, meaning that less of its total profile is obscured by the Rhino. In addition, an observer shorter than the Rhino will actually see less of the raider than is suggested by the comparison between the Rhino's side-profile-surface-area and that of the raider.

 

So, yes. A Rhino can definitely obscure a Raider. In fact, it often will. But, it won't always, and comparing the actual surface area of a Rhino side to the surface area of a Raider side won't tell you whether it will or won't, because the position of the observer has a significant effect on how much of the Raider the observer can see in spite of the Rhino.

 

yup height counts. :)

 

most necromunda players would have come across this alot. When your shooter is around 36" above the table top, shooting nearly straight down at a vehicle (or some other poor sod) with a heavy weapon, having some thing parked infront of them isn't going to give much cover.

Although is you are shooting from around 3" below the gaming surface, the target, is alot better off :)

[Veldrik]

ps - it also depends where the rhino is

if the rhino is touching the land raider, it will cover less than if the rhino is around 6" for example away from the land raider.

 

if the rhino is 2" from the shooter, and the land raider is on the other side of the rhino, 48" of the shooter, I'd say the shooter has a set of car keys in lavas chance of hitting the land raider.