Brother Mordeus Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Heres some of my WIP tell me what you think. They are for my combined pre-heresy army of Luna Wolves and Dark Angels. The Space Wolf was started for a GW comp though i missed the deadline. Wolf Guard, he is getting a power weapon and a plasma pistol and terminator shoulder pads. http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2987.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2988.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2990.jpg Luna Wolves http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2996.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2997.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2998.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2999.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_3000.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_3001.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_3002-1.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2995.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2992.jpg Dark Angels Lord, true scale, could even count as a draft Lion El'Jonson for the dimensions and ideas. http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2984.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2986.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_2983.jpg C&C Appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 You want serious C&C or just praise? Praise: Nice sculpting and ideas, I really like the dirty white of the luna wolves. As per your request the criticism, skip this if you can't take any: Wolf Guard: His left leg is positioned oddly, his foot in particular. It looks more like a fancy dance move than running. The idea is god, but you wouldn't run one way with your lower leg facing the other way would you? The gap in front between lower and upper leg could use detailing to. But I really lie the pose in general, nice and aggressive Luna Termy: No problem with the pose this time, but the shoulder guards (plasticard I presume) look folded instead of rounded and uneven at that. If you want to make plastic round, curve iut against a round object, like a needle file handle. The problem with the thinner cards is that it doesn't stay rounded and you'll need to add something of a former for it, like a piece of tubing or round cut plastic. If these are dread leg guards, I am completely wrong and you just messed them up a lot. If they are cardstoc, don't use it, it doesn't age well and doesn't stay well when handled a lot. Luna Marines: I like the colour, simple and dirty. However, I don't recall them being so clad in furs, actually I think they were almost clean compared with wolves. But then I've not read the books for some time now so might be wrong. Also, as they were pre-heresy, one would expect more pre-heresy stuff, but then as both the artwork and GW modellers are not consistent no-one will see this as a problem Dark Angels Lord: The sword pose seems a bit awkward to me, but that might be because he needs his other hand filled. I like the angels on his chest, but the chest could be bigger to compensate for the bigger (and wider) legs. You also could've taken the effort to de-terminatorise the legs, for example file down the support bars a bit so they look like raised rims instead of terminator support bars, and maybe remove the giant buttons on the knees (the round hinge like thingy). Just little things to make it more one model instead of a random collection of parts. And what are the huge blobs of plastic on the edge of the left shoulderpad? are the rivets? if so, why so big, they'd be about the size of a humans fist, slightly large in my opinion. using 0,5mm rod works best unless you lie to use small balls. So, that's done, remember, you asked for it :P And it's all to help you improve, you are free to dismiss or accept the above. cheers, Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha PTP Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 You want serious C&C or just praise?...As per your request the criticism, skip this if you can't take any. I don't think you could sound any more like a pompous ass with that comment. I just want you to know that. On another note. You have an awesome start with all of your models. The skin looks pretty good thus far on them. The wolfguard is too dark, though. Either the bronze or the grey need to become brighter. The model looks good, but it needs a lot more contrast. A model with no contrast looks like one colored blob. Since you're typically going to be far away from the models (IE table top) you want it to stand out more. There needs to be more work done on the terminator before you can get some good feedback on it. Keep working on it, it looks ace so far. The DA lord has a really promising start, but it does need some work. His entire left arm looks awkward. I don't know what you are honestly going for with how his hand looks, but I think it should be scrapped. I would just use a new arm at this point. The left shoulder pad doesn't tickle my fancy either, but that's because I dislike the huge studs on shoulder pads. The part of the mask that you sculpted is crooked as well. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyfox1990 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 You want serious C&C or just praise?...As per your request the criticism, skip this if you can't take any. I don't think you could sound any more like a pompous ass with that comment. I just want you to know that. I would have to agree with that... It was a highly unnecessary comment. As far as the models go from my personal opinion: Wolf Guard: I do agree that the posing of his legs currently does look a little bit odd from certain angles in these pictures, however I think depending on how you model the arms to go with it, it could look really good. Luna Wolf: I really like this guy. He looks extremely aggressive and is well posed. However I do think that the shoulder pads need a little work. From behind and above they don't quite look like they match together and I think that just rounding off the edges a little would make a big difference. From here on I really don't have an criticisms that I can think of: The Luna Wolves in power armour look great, I love the white and the posing of the models. Its all very well done. Same goes for the tank which is already looking good. The true scale Dark Angel is probably my favourite of the models shown. He looks well posed, with a good choice of pieces and good green stuff work. My only criticism is the right hand shoulder pad ( if looking at the model from the front ) The small bobbles on it don't look so good in my opinion and detract a little from the model. Overall I think these models look great, with only a few tiny changes I think they ll look even better though :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mordeus Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 You want serious C&C or just praise?...As per your request the criticism, skip this if you can't take any. Hey dont be honest i dont mind. Thanks a hell of a lot for the criticism. This is what i wanted, this will help me improve. Usually, i get no answers or just a small remark which is usually usseless. This is the best comments i have had in a while. This is how forums should work so thank you. I noticed a lot of the mistakes when i took the pictures. I knew the legs of the space wolf where off, thing is i had started painting when i noticed hehe. I was always a bit sckeptical about using the space wolf bits for luna wolf, but then i thought that they would just look like white marines with a wolf logo. The termi shoulder pads are made of cardboard and do look a bit weird. If you say they wont last then ill scrap them. If any of you know a good tutorial for pre-heresy shoulder pads im open for it. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyfox1990 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I m glad the various criticisms given by people were helpful. They are only small things and as such easily fixed :lol: I think this is a very nice guide for shoulder pads: http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16623 They may not be your cup of tea style wise but its a well written guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Beork Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Bleh, I might sound as a 'pompous ass' but in my experience you get flamed on this board for honest criticism so I add the disclaimer. I'd like more criticism on my work too... Wish I was as rich as most pompous people are though :lol: The guide from Heresy-online is pretty good, and nicely explained. One thing I wanted to add is the option of using plastic tubing instead of plasticcard/cardstock. It's already curved and you only need to cut out the shape, which you could make a template for like in the heresy-online tutorial. Just a thought. cheers, Beork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mordeus Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 Ok thanks beork, like i said i liked your comments and which we could get more of that, this is what helps you know not some " :lol: ;) :D wooow great model!!!" but anyway i look up heresy online cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sword brethren Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 the models are looking great you have a smooth clean white on you lunars that am rather jelous of. the lunar wolves lord shoulder pads look a lttle off, they arnt in line other than that i love all your stuff well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker25B Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I like the work you've done, and you definitely get props from me for bravery! I'm not to the point that I am comfortable attempting a lot of conversion projects myself. Most of the things that I noticed have already been pointed out, though I think there is actually a tip I might be able to throw in here! I noticed that the Luna marine on the left of the photo is facing one way while his feet are pointing another way. I have some experience moving with a weapon and can say that it is definitely not a comfortable position at all. Even a slight turn of the torso toward the direction his feet are pointing could do wonders for making him seem less off-balance. I'm still a beginner compared to a lot of the fine painters and modelers I've seen on B+C, so please take my critique with a grain of salt ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mordeus Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Thanks for the answer guys, ok something to point out, the terminators shoulder pad isnt glued, its just blue tac, which is why its a bit sideways. It looks better when i spend time putting right, sorry about that. Stryker, i see what your saying thanks for the advice, lol its true hes stretching it a bit too much hehe ill try and change it, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseychaoslord Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 this is an awsome army, Youve just made me start a luna wolves army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mordeus Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 hehe cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jimster Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 can i just ask how you have achieved the dark great on you wolf guard?? and great looking models esp like the dirty looking lunar wolves keep up the good work JIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mordeus Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 The grey on the wolf guard started as a 40 shadow grey, 30 codex grey, 10 regal blue, and 20 chas black. Then, i mixed shadow grey with codex grey in equal proportions, and added water to smoothly blend it in. Then i mixed shadow grey with black and did the same thing except in the opposite direction. Iv been told that it needs more highlights and contrasts, so maybe add a bit more codex grey to the lighter mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jimster Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 cheers for the recipe the only reason i ask as its the colour i have been looking to acheive yet have had alot of trouble but thanx mate i hope to be posted some pics up of my space marines soon when i get my camera sorted out =] JIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seva Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Nice models. I am going to have to steal that helmet idea for something in my army. I'm in a way angry with you for posting this AFTER I have finished most of my VAS squad (Blood Angel lingo for Veteran Assault Squad). Seriously though keep up the good work, all the little bits of criticism have already been addressed. I think you have some good looking figures here. I especially like the dark gray you have going on the first guys. What heads did you use for your Luna Wolves? Good work man. Obey the Emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mordeus Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Hehe thanks Seva, the Luna Wolves heads are from the marauder horseman set, two of them, and the other is a space wolf head. cheers I always obey the Emperor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Mordeus Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 Update did some painting, This is a WIP of course, the green stuff in the middle is just to hold it together. http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_9138.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_9141.jpg and my Loken, very work in progress, and im looking for help on what colors to use on him. http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_9143.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkin Arenis Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 and my Loken, very work in progress, and im looking for help on what colors to use on him. http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/BrotherMordeus/IMG_9143.jpg Bit of Gold on the trimmings maybe? Red lenses? either a red, black or a patterned cape? Just ideas, great models! :P Arenis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feytor Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I luv the way you paint white power armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 where do people get that ornate chestplate you used on the marine above loken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Awesome! And in response to the chestplate, isn't it Sicarius? If it isn't, then it's probably one of the Masters of the Chapter models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkin Arenis Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 isn't it Sicarius? Yep :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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