The Angels Cruentus, my DIY Chapter

[o3gan]

First of all Please almighty Ferrata don’t merge my threads please

 

Edit List (a list explaining all edits)

description added for the purus planet

changed amount of marines and ship from origins

added about Chapter Master Angaelus

added colour scheme

Angel among men, not upon

chapter organisation added

Lost child story added

added their dirty little secret

made it more clear about killing citesens

added story about stopping horus from returning

 

Notes

Should i get rid of one of the Missions? if so which one should i get rid of?

i think it would be easier to change the one about looking for a worthy host to, looking for someone worthy of looking after the chapter in Sanguinius's absence

 

 

 

The Angels Cruentus Origins

 

Little is known about the Angels Cruentus origins, but similarities in genetic mutations indicate that the Angels Cruentus are successors to the Blood Angels. A lot of information has been lost regarding the Chapters beginnings however they deem it their purpose to find the reincarnation of Sanguinius. The Chapter has become infatuated with their purpose and will go to extreme measures to find Sanguinius Reborn.

 

The Angels Cruentus have little to almost no information about its origins. They don’t even know their original name. It is suspected that a lot of this information was lost during a war with The Eldar. It is assumed the Eldar attacked the Chapters Homeworld but this is not a certainty. Little else is known about the war. 80 men of the Chapter were found drifting through space in their Strike Cruiser with no recollection of how they got there, corpses of the Eldar lay next to corpses of marines in the ships centre.

 

The Angels Cruentus acquired their name when, Chief Librarian Quaero had a vision that the inhabitants of the planet “Pessum Ire” knew information that would eventually lead to the whereabouts of the resurrected Sanguinius. Quaero took a minor force to the surface of Pessum Ire to retrieve the information, when the inhabitants refused to give the information under the excuse of “we don’t know anything about Sanguinius” Quaero told them that “if you do not help the Imperium then, you are against it, and that if your against it you must be killed as traitors” he told the inquisition that the world was full of traitors, then slaughtered as many people as he could before returning to his ship and Exterminating the planet. This earned the chapter the nickname “The Bloody Angels” which eventually weaved its way into the Chapter, The Chapter decided to call itself the Angels Cruentus using “cruentus” an ancient word for “bloody”.

[o3gan]

The Angels Cruentus Beliefs

The Angels Cruentus claim that one day Horus will return and aim to overthrow the Imperium; they consider it their mission to make sure Sanguinius is alive to protect the Imperium until the Emperor returns. They believe that there is two ways that Sanguinius could return; he will either be born an “Angel among Men”, or be born into the body of a worthy host. The Angels Cruentus constantly scour the universe to try and find a host for Sanguinius and hunt any leads about where Sanguinius will be born. The Angels Cruentus, try to keep their missions secret as the other chapters may not take lighlty to it, they go under the cover of "Searching for an an Ancient relic" and anyone who gets to close to finding the truth has a tendency to "dissapear"

The fact that they believe Horus will return causes the Angels Cruentus to get extremely close to chaos, their librarians are told to search for information about his return. The Angels are extremley secretive and so little else is known. Upon hearing about a group of sorcerers trying to bring back Horus, the Angels sent out 6 companies to defeat them. The sorcerers turned out to be thousand sons and the Angels were met with a host of Daemons. The were so compelled to defeat the sorcerers that the Daemons were almost forgotten about, this lead the Angels into a trap which would have all but destroyed them if it not for the apearance of "Sanguinius" in the chapter masters head.

When recruiting, The Angels Cruentus look for Sanguinius’s hosts. If a recruit is deemed exceptional even among the usual recruits, then he will be put through the Nequeo a near impossible set of trials that will more likely than not result in death. The idea behind the Nequeo is to check if the person is worthy to house Sanguinius, and so is believed to be the most strenuous recruitment program in the entire Imperium. Only one person has ever succeeded at the Nequeo.

For a Chapter of Space Marines, The Angels Cruentus are somewhat relaxed towards mutants; this is most likely because their Primarch was effectively a mutant himself. The Angels Cruentus state they are more accepting to mutants because there is a possibility that Sanguinius will be born a mutant again.

[o3gan]

The Angels Cruentus Homeworld

The Angels Cruentus Don’t Have a Homeworld, instead they use the Battle Barge “Deus Domus” as a centre of operations. Deus Domus will usually be found in the Ultima Segmentum near Baal, following leads to where Sanguinius will be born. The Angels Cruentus do not have a Homeworld because searching for worthy hosts from all over the Imperium and chasing leads on were Sanguinius will be born requires the chapter to be mobile.

The Angels Cruentus recruit for numerous worlds they encounter during their two personal missions, although they have a high number of recruits from the Hive World Purus, a planet in the west of the Ultima Segmentum. The inhabitants of Purus are quite different to the Angels Cruentus in the fact that they hate all mutants, even though only one has ever been recorded on the planet. Purus is a planet with major hive cities, outisde of the cities are red deserts stretching for miles

[o3gan]

The Angels Cruentus Combat Doctrine

The two personal missions of the Angels Cruentus lend themselves well to a Mechanized Assault, with the Angels Cruentus speeding up in transports, bursting out and gathering the required intelligence. During the Medusa V the Angels Cruentus employed a tactic to take out the heavy amour of the enemy they would drive a transport directly in front of infantry or more important tanks to provide mobile cover. From these tactics we assume that the Angels Cruentus have a high number of transports

The Angels Cruentus Organisation

The Angels Cruentus, stick to codex in having
1st veteran company
2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th as battle companies
6th 7th 8th and 9th are reserve companies
10th is a scout company

battle companies, have 4 tactical squads in rhinos 4 assualt squads in rhinos 2 assault squads and 2 devastator, this aids in the mechanised assault

[o3gan]

The Angels Cruentus Geneseed

It isn’t certain whether the Angels Cruentus Geneseed is from Sanguinius but the fact that they share genetic mutations with the blood angels is somewhat a good indication that they are. The Angels Cruentus personal missions also a good indication that they are Blood Angels successor. It is unknown however if the chapter was created by the Blood Angels or a Blood Angels successor.

The Angels Cruentus have the Black Rage and Red thirst. Victims of Black Rage are placed in Cyro Chambers.

[o3gan]

The Angels Cruentus Battlecry

During a charge the Angels Cruentus scream “For Sanguinius the savior of all!”

[o3gan]

The Angels Cruentus Chapter Master Angaelus

It is rare enough to find anyone worthy to partake in the Nequeo, but it is rarer still that anyone should succeed; only one has ever accomplished it and that was Chapter Master Cruon Angaelus. Cruon Angaelus was found on Minuo during one of the chapters searches for a host.

At the age of twelve Angaelus was a leader of an extremely hostile gang. The Gang made few friends but many enemies, Angaelus’s gang got into a mass war when many of their enemies combined to “take them out”. Under Angaelus’s superior command and tactics the Gang achieved victory only to find the Arbites ready to finish them off, by coincidence the Angels Cruentus were looking for recruits in the area, upon hearing about a shoot out between a gang and the Arbites they decided that it would be a good place for recruits. When they arrived all that was left of the gang was Angaelus, The Angels Cruentus decided to recruit him.

Angaelus performed exceedingly well compared to the other Neophytes, and generally looked stronger smarter, tougher and quicker than them The Chaplain overseeing him decided to put him through the Nequeo one thousand trials designed to destroy the mind body and soul, one of his more notable tasks was to slay a Nemean Bear with only a knife. The Nemean bears are 1800 pound 12 foot tall giants. Angaelus approached the bear from behind with his knife, planning to surprise attack it, but it turned and knocked him to the ground also disarming him of his knife. Angaelus picked up a large rock and hit the bear in the head with it this staggered the bear and gave Angaelus the chance to strangle it to death.

Angaelus is the only person to ever successfully complete the Nequeo, earning him the write to host Sanguinius, if Sanguinius were to be reborn that way after completing the Nequeo he was put into the Chapter were he got the best tutoring possible. After being recruited into the scouts, Angaelus told his Chaplain he could hear Sanguinius in his head. He told the Chaplain that Sanguinius and Horus were fighting to speak through him Sanguinius would aid him and Horus would try and reek Havoc through him the Chaplain believed him and said, “this is a sign that you are worthy to host Sanguinius, and once the fight between Horus and Sanguinius has been decided he will enter your body” sources from outside the Chapter believe that the Nequeo was so damaging to Angaelus’s mind that it gave him Schizophrenia.
Angaelus rose through the Angels Cruentus’s ranks and eventually became Chapter Master during a war with the Orks in which his predecessor was killed by an Ork Warlord, the Sanguinius in Angaelus’s head then guided him through how to win the war, guiding him were each attack would be more effective and were in the defense the Orks would attack, the Ork Warlord fled taking his army with them. Sanguinius they guided Angaelus to the Ork planet and aided Angaelus in defeating them.

Examples of the “Horus” in Angaelus’s head are harder to come by as Angaelus believes all of the voices he listens to are Sanguinius, however one such incident is suspected. The voice inside Angaelus’s head told him that the seventh company captain planned to take arms against the Chapter Master and over through him. Angaelus’s believing that Sanguinius was guiding him destroyed the entire seventh company. The planet that the seventh company would have been guarding was then attacked by orcs and many citizens killed.

[o3gan]

The Angels Cruentus "The Lost Child"

Chief Librarian Quaero of the Angels Cruentus heard of an infant on Purus (a usually mutant free planet) that had wings. The community wanted the virgin mother to kill the child, as on Purus mutants are hated. If the mother refused then the community would kill her. The mother couldn’t bare to kill the infant herself, and so left it in a Giant Scorpions cove. Chief Librarian Quaero went to the Scorpion cove to rescue the infant; he also sent a force to find the mother. When Quaero reached the cove he found the infant surrounded by the bodies of Giant Scorpions, the child didn’t even have a scratch on it, other than a strangle mark burnt onto its neck. Other than the abnormal scar on its neck and the 2 feathered wings spouting from its back, it looks like a usual platinum haired child. The mother was found dead, due to unknown causes. Quaero was convinced that he had found Sanguinius, and he reported it to the chapter master.

The Blood Angels chief librarian Mephiston heard of the “rebirth of Sanguinius” and was furious that the Angels Cruentus were claiming they had found him. He disbelieved them. Mephiston ordered Quaero to bring the child and meet him, for he would decide whether the Angels Cruentus had truly found the reincarnation of Sanguinius. Quaero was worried, he believed that Mephiston wanted to take the child from him, he went to the Chapter Master and asked what to do. The Chapter Master said take a small force and meet Mephiston on the surface of Purus, a neutral ground. If Mephiston attempts to take the child I will dispatch a company to retrieve it. And so the plans were set.

Mephiston and Quaero met upon the surface of Purus each accompanied by an Honour Guard. Mephiston didn’t seem in the mood for anything but to see the child. Quaero commanded one of his Honour guard to bring it forward. On his command an Eldar army appeared from the shadows and layed fire against the marines, the marines were off guard and were split by the Eldar. The Honour Guard carrying the infant was killed, the Eldar took the child and disappeared as fast as they appeared.

Quaero was furious and attempted to chase the Eldar back to their craft world, But chasing the Eldar was like chasing shadows, and soon all leads to were the child and the Eldar were disappeared. Quaero couldn’t bare the shame of loosing Sanguinius and so killed himself, rather than having to face its consequences.

The Chapter master sends the majority of the Chapter in search of the Lost Child, but nothing came of it, and he decided to bring his Chapter back and carry on with their missions

[o3gan]

The Angels Cruentus Colour Scheme

That is my general colour scheme, obviously replace the Dark Angels and Tactical squad Logos with their appropriate Blood Angels Equivelant

I also considered sticking to the theme of preparing for Sanguinius's return and making my chapter look like heresy/pre heresy Blood Angels what do you think on this?

[Demoulius]

ok m8, ive read all the entries and here is some feedback for you.

 

the believes of your chapter would mean that they wouldnt make many friends. their believes would be held in secret in order to prevent the inquisistion and anyone else who might disagree with their believes from finding out. i kind of doubt other marine chapters, even the blood angels themselves would approve of their believes if they find out because some parts of it smell like downright chaos curroption.

 

any chapter that has a tendancy to kill tons of civilians without good cause is also bound to have an inquisitor sent after them.

 

overall your chapter's fluff has a nice feel to it. it lacks a certain "cause and effect" part however. you mentioned several times that theyre questing for a "reincarnation of sanguinius", hunt horus (or want to) activly and tend to kill imperial civiliains on a regular basis (bit blow out of proportions but ok ;)) what is the effect of that? how do imperial civiliains take that knowledge? how does the inquisition? how do the first founding blood angels and their other succesors respond to that?

 

-is the chapter open about their quest? (which i doubt, knowing how quik it would be mistaken for chaos taint)

-are they suspicious of outsiders?

-you mentioned they are fleet based and stay somewhere near baal. you also mentioned a planet they recruit regulary from. do they recruit from others? how does this effect their ability to recover losses?

-you mentioned they favor mounted assaults. is this the only approach they have for battle? do they posses other tactics that they excel at?

-does their company make up vary from normal chapters?

-how are their ties with the mechanicus? marine chapters, specialy those fleet based have difficulties recovering the losses of equipment they suffer, specialy if your space born ships are amongst those lost.

-how has the new chapter master effected your chapter? was it a good, or bad thing for the chapter? somehow i doubt having a leader suffering from scitzofrenia would be good for your battleplan. on the other hand his felllow marines might be inspired by it because the believe in him even more so.

 

those are just some of the thigns that come to my mind brother, i dont mean to criticize, just help :D

[Morticon]

"angel among men" - not "upon". The angel isnt ON the men.

[Deadlight]

i initially thought it was an update of this chapter,

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...=141238&hl=

 

funny how one letter in the chapter makes a difference :)

 

i have not read an IA like this before. i like the story, very detailed, but maybe too detailed for a IA. if you want to do more standardised looking IA i would paraphrase the story, and keep the story separate.

 

keep up the good work.

[o3gan]

"angel among men" - not "upon". The angel isnt ON the men.

o yes he is! :tu:

 

 

lol errm thanks, its just i heard that before somewhere and i thought it was some famous quote so i changed it a messed up obviously

 

 

thanks

[o3gan]

i initially thought it was an update of this chapter,

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...=141238&hl=

 

funny how one letter in the chapter makes a difference :tu:

 

i have not read an IA like this before. i like the story, very detailed, but maybe too detailed for a IA. if you want to do more standardised looking IA i would paraphrase the story, and keep the story separate.

 

keep up the good work.

wow thats just weird we both came up with pretty much the same name,

[o3gan]

ok m8, ive read all the entries and here is some feedback for you.

 

the believes of your chapter would mean that they wouldnt make many friends. their believes would be held in secret in order to prevent the inquisistion and anyone else who might disagree with their believes from finding out. i kind of doubt other marine chapters, even the blood angels themselves would approve of their believes if they find out because some parts of it smell like downright chaos curroption.

 

any chapter that has a tendancy to kill tons of civilians without good cause is also bound to have an inquisitor sent after them.

 

overall your chapter's fluff has a nice feel to it. it lacks a certain "cause and effect" part however. you mentioned several times that theyre questing for a "reincarnation of sanguinius", hunt horus (or want to) activly and tend to kill imperial civiliains on a regular basis (bit blow out of proportions but ok ;)) what is the effect of that? how do imperial civiliains take that knowledge? how does the inquisition? how do the first founding blood angels and their other succesors respond to that?

 

-is the chapter open about their quest? (which i doubt, knowing how quik it would be mistaken for chaos taint)

-are they suspicious of outsiders?

-you mentioned they are fleet based and stay somewhere near baal. you also mentioned a planet they recruit regulary from. do they recruit from others? how does this effect their ability to recover losses?

-you mentioned they favor mounted assaults. is this the only approach they have for battle? do they posses other tactics that they excel at?

-does their company make up vary from normal chapters?

-how are their ties with the mechanicus? marine chapters, specialy those fleet based have difficulties recovering the losses of equipment they suffer, specialy if your space born ships are amongst those lost.

-how has the new chapter master effected your chapter? was it a good, or bad thing for the chapter? somehow i doubt having a leader suffering from scitzofrenia would be good for your battleplan. on the other hand his felllow marines might be inspired by it because the believe in him even more so.

 

those are just some of the thigns that come to my mind brother, i dont mean to criticize, just help :tu:

 

 

im in abit of a rush so ill go through all your advice later

 

 

first thing that hit me is that, i wanted the chapters missions to be secret but i didnt think i could for an IA because if it was a secret would the IA writer know about it?

 

 

and btw mean to criticize me, i want you to, its what i need

 

thanks alot O3gan

[Ace Debonair]

You know, you really ought to put all of this in a single post next time, instead of adding tiny snippets every five minutes.

Failing that, add your tiny snippets to the original post with the edit button.

 

Aside from that, though, it's not bad. ;)

 

How is the chapter organised? Is it a typical codex chapter? (Ten companies, so many of which battle/reserve/assault/devastator/etc)

Or do they follow a totally different structure? And if they do, don't forget to add why. :tu:

[Midnightmare]

Enjoyable that ^_^ I do like the chapter master fluff, its quite original.

[o3gan]

You know, you really ought to put all of this in a single post next time, instead of adding tiny snippets every five minutes.

Failing that, add your tiny snippets to the original post with the edit button.

 

Aside from that, though, it's not bad. :(

 

How is the chapter organised? Is it a typical codex chapter? (Ten companies, so many of which battle/reserve/assault/devastator/etc)

Or do they follow a totally different structure? And if they do, don't forget to add why. ^_^

 

 

i did it all in seperate posts because i thought i could do loads of links to the different posts, then i realised i couldnt

 

i think i need to write about the organisation as it is apearing alot, even though its just codex with assault squads as troops

[o3gan]

the believes of your chapter would mean that they wouldnt make many friends. their believes would be held in secret in order to prevent the inquisistion and anyone else who might disagree with their believes from finding out. i kind of doubt other marine chapters, even the blood angels themselves would approve of their believes if they find out because some parts of it smell like downright chaos curroption.

I agree with you i would like to have the mission secret, but i cant think of a way of doing it because if the missions were secret then the IA writer wouldnt know about them,

 

if anyone has a way around this please tell me

any chapter that has a tendancy to kill tons of civilians without good cause is also bound to have an inquisitor sent after them.

i think you are referring to the part in origins when they got their name, if so then they tell the inquisiton that they killed heretics (ill try to make it more clear)

overall your chapter's fluff has a nice feel to it.

thanks

it lacks a certain "cause and effect" part

i dont understand this can you explain and give me some examples

however. you mentioned several times that theyre questing for a "reincarnation of sanguinius", hunt horus (or want to) activly and tend to kill imperial civiliains on a regular basis (bit blow out of proportions but ok :D) what is the effect of that? how do imperial civiliains take that knowledge? how does the inquisition? how do the first founding blood angels and their other succesors respond to that?

I dont think i say that they are hunting horus but please show me what confused you as i have probably made a mistake, neither do i say they kill civilians (other than the part that got them their name, which i explained earlier) so tell me what confused you here to

-is the chapter open about their quest? (which i doubt, knowing how quik it would be mistaken for chaos taint)

i explained earlier i would like it to be secret, but dont know how

-are they suspicious of outsiders?

depends on the above if the missions are secret then yes

-you mentioned they are fleet based and stay somewhere near baal. you also mentioned a planet they recruit regulary from. do they recruit from others? how does this effect their ability to recover losses?

they recruit from planets they visit during the missions, so they recruit from everywhere realy. ill try and make this more clear

-you mentioned they favor mounted assaults. is this the only approach they have for battle? do they posses other tactics that they excel at?

errrm no, i just wrote about the actual tactics i used, and i also took part in a mini medusa V campaign

-does their company make up vary from normal chapters? ?

no ill make this clear

-how are their ties with the mechanicus? marine chapters, specialy those fleet based have difficulties recovering the losses of equipment they suffer, specialy if your space born ships are amongst those lost.?

gosh i forgot to write about this, i think do to the fact they used mechanised assault and live on space ships they need good ties with the mechanicus, any ideas of how to write this in

-how has the new chapter master effected your chapter? was it a good, or bad thing for the chapter? somehow i doubt having a leader suffering from scitzofrenia would be good for your battleplan. on the other hand his felllow marines might be inspired by it because the believe in him even more so.

their morale will increase because they believe they are possibly fighting alongside a future sanguinius reincarnate, effectiveness in battle must be a bit hit or miss do to his Horus and Sanguinius's voices

 

ill try to right this in

those are just some of the thigns that come to my mind brother, i dont mean to criticize, just help :D

critisiscm is what i wanted thanks

[o3gan]

Enjoyable that :D I do like the chapter master fluff, its quite original.

thanks :D

 

niced to hear some praise (not that i dont appreciate critiscm)

[Brother Michaels]

Enjoyable that :D I do like the chapter master fluff, its quite original.

thanks :D

 

niced to hear some praise (not that i dont appreciate critiscm)

 

well i like your chapter :D ;)

 

i know you wont make much friends but at least your doing something different

[o3gan]

Enjoyable that B) I do like the chapter master fluff, its quite original.

thanks :P

 

niced to hear some praise (not that i dont appreciate critiscm)

 

well i like your chapter :D ;)

 

i know you wont make much friends but at least your doing something different

I dont need freinds, i have a guy who thinks he can hear both sanguinius and horus in his head

 

ill concede that hes a scitzophrenic, but still Horus and Sangie

[JamesI]

I'm curious as to how long this chapter could avoid falling to chaos. The chapter master could be easy prey to Tzeentch.

[Demoulius]

I agree with you i would like to have the mission secret, but i cant think of a way of doing it because if the missions were secret then the IA writer wouldnt know about them,

 

if anyone has a way around this please tell me

thats not really true. your telling a story about the backstory of your chapter. the secret wouldnt be a secret to you since you made up the fluff right? :D maybe make them use words to tell, and not tell at the same time what theyre up to. like for example "we are looking for relics (or a relic) from ages past" wouldnt be far from the truth. but at the same time they would be hiding abit of it as well ;) more inqisistive people would be just told to mind their own bussiness or that they wouldnt understand or somesuch....or killed because theyre on the road to discovering the truth ;)

 

i think you are referring to the part in origins when they got their name, if so then they tell the inquisiton that they killed heretics (ill try to make it more clear)

i read the part how they got their name and the part where the new leader killed off a company (or its leader i kinda skipped through it) and also killed off innocent civies. if certain parties of the imperium found out about that it wouldnt put them in high favour with said parties.

 

i dont understand this can you explain and give me some examples

well are you familiar with cause and effect itself? basicly its a metaphore that means that everything that you do has a concequence. if its freezes outside (cause) water...well freezes. its an effect from a cause (sorry i suck at explaining this...)

 

basicly what i meant was. your chapter follows a certain belief. like all chapters it occasionaly kills imperial civilians, who may or may not have been deemed heretics. even if they used the excuse of heretics, does everyone believe it? all it takes is one inquisitor who suspects your chapter for them to get it in all sorts of trouble.

 

to put it simple (because im starting to confuse myself here) has your chapter run into any troubles by following their believes? <- most simple as i can make the question

 

I dont think i say that they are hunting horus but please show me what confused you as i have probably made a mistake, neither do i say they kill civilians (other than the part that got them their name, which i explained earlier) so tell me what confused you here to

euhm...what i mean is the following line "The Angels Cruentus claim that one day Horus will return and aim to overthrow the Imperium; they consider it their mission to make sure Sanguinius is alive to protect the Imperium until the Emperor returns" to me that sounds like they are wary of horus returning. they may not hunt him but will most likely be very interesting in all information concerning chaos; which might be abit suspicous, if theyre abit to much interested.... (like...how would they KNOW when horus would be returning? sorcery? interogation?)

 

they recruit from planets they visit during the missions, so they recruit from everywhere realy. ill try and make this more clear

ah i see. this would make sense as such a chapter wouldnt sit idle for very long lengths of time.

 

errrm no, i just wrote about the actual tactics i used, and i also took part in a mini medusa V campaign

i see. it was the only mention of any tactics they favor so i figured it would be how they always work. most chapters have a certain type of warfare that they favor. for example drop pod assaults, mounted attack or perhaps they favor ship to ship battles etc. does your chapter have one such? or do they just go to battle depending on situation?

 

gosh i forgot to write about this, i think do to the fact they used mechanised assault and live on space ships they need good ties with the mechanicus, any ideas of how to write this in

you could combine this easily with the chapters ideology. and how the imperium vieuws the chapter.

 

well hope my explanation of your questions is understandable now? let me know if i can something more to help you develop your chapter brother :(

[o3gan]

I agree with you i would like to have the mission secret, but i cant think of a way of doing it because if the missions were secret then the IA writer wouldnt know about them,

 

if anyone has a way around this please tell me

thats not really true. your telling a story about the backstory of your chapter. the secret wouldnt be a secret to you since you made up the fluff right? ;) maybe make them use words to tell, and not tell at the same time what theyre up to. like for example "we are looking for relics (or a relic) from ages past" wouldnt be far from the truth. but at the same time they would be hiding abit of it as well ;) more inqisistive people would be just told to mind their own bussiness or that they wouldnt understand or somesuch....or killed because theyre on the road to discovering the truth :P

 

i think you are referring to the part in origins when they got their name, if so then they tell the inquisiton that they killed heretics (ill try to make it more clear)

i read the part how they got their name and the part where the new leader killed off a company (or its leader i kinda skipped through it) and also killed off innocent civies. if certain parties of the imperium found out about that it wouldnt put them in high favour with said parties.

 

i dont understand this can you explain and give me some examples

well are you familiar with cause and effect itself? basicly its a metaphore that means that everything that you do has a concequence. if its freezes outside (cause) water...well freezes. its an effect from a cause (sorry i suck at explaining this...)

 

basicly what i meant was. your chapter follows a certain belief. like all chapters it occasionaly kills imperial civilians, who may or may not have been deemed heretics. even if they used the excuse of heretics, does everyone believe it? all it takes is one inquisitor who suspects your chapter for them to get it in all sorts of trouble.

 

to put it simple (because im starting to confuse myself here) has your chapter run into any troubles by following their believes? <- most simple as i can make the question

 

I dont think i say that they are hunting horus but please show me what confused you as i have probably made a mistake, neither do i say they kill civilians (other than the part that got them their name, which i explained earlier) so tell me what confused you here to

euhm...what i mean is the following line "The Angels Cruentus claim that one day Horus will return and aim to overthrow the Imperium; they consider it their mission to make sure Sanguinius is alive to protect the Imperium until the Emperor returns" to me that sounds like they are wary of horus returning. they may not hunt him but will most likely be very interesting in all information concerning chaos; which might be abit suspicous, if theyre abit to much interested.... (like...how would they KNOW when horus would be returning? sorcery? interogation?)

 

they recruit from planets they visit during the missions, so they recruit from everywhere realy. ill try and make this more clear

ah i see. this would make sense as such a chapter wouldnt sit idle for very long lengths of time.

 

errrm no, i just wrote about the actual tactics i used, and i also took part in a mini medusa V campaign

i see. it was the only mention of any tactics they favor so i figured it would be how they always work. most chapters have a certain type of warfare that they favor. for example drop pod assaults, mounted attack or perhaps they favor ship to ship battles etc. does your chapter have one such? or do they just go to battle depending on situation?

 

gosh i forgot to write about this, i think do to the fact they used mechanised assault and live on space ships they need good ties with the mechanicus, any ideas of how to write this in

you could combine this easily with the chapters ideology. and how the imperium vieuws the chapter.

 

well hope my explanation of your questions is understandable now? let me know if i can something more to help you develop your chapter brother :tu:

 

thanks you have been a great help. now i properly understand your questions ill get round to fixing them