Valerian Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Members of the Fang, I've taken the old Rules of Engagement from an old White Dwarf article and updated it for 5th Edition compatibility. This document provides an alternate method for generating mission scenarios. I used this system quite a bit in 4th Edition, and love how they work. I figured I ought to share this with the Fang. One of the cooler aspects to using the Rules of Engagement scenarios is that each army is likely to have different mission objectives, which makes for much more interesting games. Using the RoE is a way to liven up your games a bit, if you are growing tired of the same old mission/deployment combinations from the Rulebook. Enjoy, Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Not linking the file. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2214574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Not linking the file. Hmmm. Thanks for the heads-up on that. It works for me, but maybe that is because I'm the one that uploaded the file. Will initiate trouble-shooting; has anyone seen the Iron Priest? V Edit: It looks like the file is awaiting Moderator approval. Once that has been done, then hopefully everything will work as it should and y'all will be able to download and use the document. I'll keep you informed. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2214578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake28 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Can't view the file yet, but thanks very much for doing this! I loved the Rules of Engagement when we used them back in 4th edition but haven't gotten around to updating them for 5th yet. Looking forward to see what's new and improved. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2214602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Not up yet, but Im excited. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2214623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muller Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 can't wait to try it. cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2214821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Still not up :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I can motion that. Pity, I'm very interested in incorporating them into a scenario. I have found the one posted by Morticon, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 I can motion that. Pity, I'm very interested in incorporating them into a scenario. I have found the one posted by Morticon, though. Sorry for the delay folks. Kurgan sent me a PM that the file is being reviewed for approval, but is getting extra scrutiny due to a few GW owned pictures. I'm going to remove the pictures and resubmit when I get home, to see if that will expidite the process. Stay tuned. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Hope so. Would be great to be able to use RoE in games soon =D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 Hope so. Would be great to be able to use RoE in games soon =D Should be working now, give it a try. I updated the links in the original post at the top. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Yep, it's working now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Excellent. Downloaded and read. Thanks for the effort you put in to this, I'll be using it a lot. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Um, it only shows two paragraphs that dont really say much :tu: . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake28 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Haven't read it yet, but I have downloaded it. Thanks very much for your time and effort! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Great stuff. Have read it all, and I will probably be using this a lot too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2216970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Im going to email this to a couple of my gaming buddies, see if we can try it out this weekend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2217015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted December 16, 2009 Author Share Posted December 16, 2009 Um, it only shows two paragraphs that dont really say much :) . Commander Alexander, There is a .jpeg screenshot of the first page, which is probably what you saw. The .PDF document has about 6 or 7 pages (I forget). To anyone that gets a chance to play with the RoE, let me know how itgoes and what you think. With good feedback, I can maybe make some refinements/improvements. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2217279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Um, it only shows two paragraphs that dont really say much ;) . Commander Alexander, There is a .jpeg screenshot of the first page, which is probably what you saw. The .PDF document has about 6 or 7 pages (I forget). To anyone that gets a chance to play with the RoE, let me know how itgoes and what you think. With good feedback, I can maybe make some refinements/improvements. V Woops, I misssed the "Download File" button at the bottom, looks much better now, I may try to get in a few games during the break (It will be my first time playing in months :o ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2217617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpup Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Question about the Bombardment scenario; Is that 50% of your enemies entire army? Or 50% of each unit? If the latter, does that mean you have to destroy all thier vehicles for conditions to apply? Or maybe just immobolize them? And lastly, Do dedicated transports go towards individual unit count or do all of those have to be destroyed as well? (assuming every UNIT has to be below 50%) Another question about deployement #4; Is that basically the Spearhead deployment from the BRB without the 12" No-mans-land in the middle? Deployement #6 is really similar to the BRBs Dawn of War deployement. I think we'll add night fighting rules for turn one to that deployement. And i really like the idea of individual missions. Should add a lot of life to objective games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2217656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Question about the Bombardment scenario; Is that 50% of your enemies entire army? Or 50% of each unit? Excellent questions. For this one, it is supposed to be 50% of each unit, which can be very interesting to play, as you might make different decisions on what to target based on how attritted the unit is. For example, that unit of Tactical Marines is a threat which I would normally engage, but it's down to half strength so I'm going to shoot at that other squad that is farther away and has not yet been touched so that I can meet my mission objectives. If the latter, does that mean you have to destroy all thier vehicles for conditions to apply? Or maybe just immobolize them? And lastly, Do dedicated transports go towards individual unit count or do all of those have to be destroyed as well? (assuming every UNIT has to be below 50%) I think a fair way to treat vehicles for the purposes of this mission is to say that any damage result, not including Shaken or Stunned, would count (e.g. Immobilized, Weapon Destroyed, and obviously Wrecked and Explodes results). Honestly, I think I wouldn't even include dedicated transports into the requirement for meeting this objective (it will be difficult enough as it is). Since, however, you would be playing these optional rules based on opponent consent anyway, just talk about the requirements before starting the game to make sure all of this is agreed upon ahead of time. Another question about deployement #4; Is that basically the Spearhead deployment from the BRB without the 12" No-mans-land in the middle? Correct. This was the one of the old 4th Edition table-quarters deployment methods. Again, with opponent's consent, you could simplify things and just use the current Spearhead deployment and no man's land instead of the 18" separation thing in the RoE. In fact, if I get around to updating the RoE I think I'll change this one to the newer method. Thanks for pointing this out. Deployement #6 is really similar to the BRBs Dawn of War deployement. I think we'll add night fighting rules for turn one to that deployment. Sounds good to me. And i really like the idea of individual missions. Should add a lot of life to objective games. Yeah, I loved playing with the RoE back in 4th Edition; it really did make things a lot more interesting. Especially when you got weird results like Orks rolling for Holdout, while Imperial Guard get Lightning Raid - Commissar: "You heard the Colonel's orders; now get over there and charge those Ork defenses!" If anyone gets a game in, please let us all know how it goes. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2218610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Haha, this will be fun to play with my friends guard. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2218863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 Im going to email this to a couple of my gaming buddies, see if we can try it out this weekend. So, has anyone managed to get any games in using the Rules of Engagement scenarios? I hadn't heard anything back from anyone yet, and figured I'd write and check. I am curious as to how the games went, and if these are perceived as an improvement over the base mission rules in the BRB. I'm looking forward to hearing from anyone who has tried them out. V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2227024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderpup Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Im going to email this to a couple of my gaming buddies, see if we can try it out this weekend. So, has anyone managed to get any games in using the Rules of Engagement scenarios? I hadn't heard anything back from anyone yet, and figured I'd write and check. I am curious as to how the games went, and if these are perceived as an improvement over the base mission rules in the BRB. I'm looking forward to hearing from anyone who has tried them out. V My friend and i ended up with a short edges deployement with him rolling for Unconventional Warfare and I rolling for Lightning Raid. Turned it into a 3 objective game. (which was fine) We ended up with a draw, but we both agreed we like the scenarios and deployments. You would think normal tactics would prevail, but you really have to think about what you're going to do before deployement. So, from my buddy and me? Four Thumbs up. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2227062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 Im going to email this to a couple of my gaming buddies, see if we can try it out this weekend. So, has anyone managed to get any games in using the Rules of Engagement scenarios? I hadn't heard anything back from anyone yet, and figured I'd write and check. I am curious as to how the games went, and if these are perceived as an improvement over the base mission rules in the BRB. I'm looking forward to hearing from anyone who has tried them out. V My friend and i ended up with a short edges deployement with him rolling for Unconventional Warfare and I rolling for Lightning Raid. Turned it into a 3 objective game. (which was fine) We ended up with a draw, but we both agreed we like the scenarios and deployments. You would think normal tactics would prevail, but you really have to think about what you're going to do before deployement. Well, that is the whole point. I feel the same way, that these scenarios provide an additional layer of challenge to the game, which is why I wanted to bring them up to date and provide them to The Fang. So, from my buddy and me? Four Thumbs up. :rolleyes: Excellent, glad to hear it. Let me know if you get more games in. I see that you are also in Colorado, what part, might I ask? V Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187202-rules-of-engagement/#findComment-2227069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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