guillaume Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 well, we are supposed to win after all, we are the good guys.... :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2247170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
- 7eAL - Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 well, we are supposed to win after all, we are the good guys.... :o As much as I like winning, I don't want to rely on a one-trick pony. Seriously getting shades of the old triple Wraithlord lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2256571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Im looking forward to getting a GKLRR, and will likely use it as the delivery system for my GM and Retinue, as the Firestorms and Psycannons will work to soften entrenched areas... and can use my Crusader for my main strike squad of PAGK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2257012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Also the Redemption Force (not sure if thats the exact name). I have used that formation in several apocolypse battles, and really enjoyed it. Cant wait to have a chance to use it against Daemons in Apoc. Esp the Bloodletter formation, make it a challenge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2261754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Cant wait to have a chance to use it against Daemons in Apoc You can't use it if you don't face Daemons? :/ I dislike that datasheet so much as to claim I actually probably hate it. Well, at least despise. It flies in the face of what Apocalypse is all about, and ruins Team based Apocalypses. It still remains the *only* Datasheet released to have; 1) A stipulation based on your opponents on its availability for use 2) A Penalty (and a massive one at that) It wouldn't be so bad if sheets like the Terminus Ultra required your opponent to field a Super Heavy before you could use it (as the fluff states), or for you to actually be facing a Titan before you can call in your Titanhammer Squad (just examples...). Before anyone gets in with it, sure we can make our own up. Houserules are great. I'd actually prefer an 'official' GK Datasheet though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2262042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I'd actually prefer an 'official' GK Datasheet though... There's the GK Redeemer Force on GW's website, no? Link. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2262295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 That's the one. The focus of my post above... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2262488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 That's the one. The focus of my post above... You can't use that except against Daemons? :cuss *Howls in the general direction of Nottingham* GW! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2262541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 No no no my friends, you misunderstand. You can use the Redeemer as long as there is Chaos on the field, SM or Daemon. I merely meant i havent had the opportunity against daemons yet. Tho i DO agree its BS that once there is no chaos on the field, your opponent gains control of your army to wreck havoc against your own team. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2262691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Check the 'Redemptors' special rule. This data sheet can *only* be used if your opponents field a Greater Daemon or a Warp Rift. There is no way to use it otherwise. (Technically, it's worse. You can spend all your Points on this sheet, turn up, and your opponents *don't* use said Gaemon or Warp Rift, and you lose. As your paid for army, can't enter the feld of play, but you've still spent your points on it. And this isn't what Apoc's about inthe slightest... It's the bottom of the barrel, worst of the worst, uttery irredeemable, lamest datasheet GW have ever produced. It's also the *only* GK datasheet GW have ever produced...) Edit before flks take these posts the wrong way. There's nothing wrong with fluff based games. Fluff based campaigns can be awesome. But Apoc is neither. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2263336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Well, there's the "Ordo Malleus Covenant of Destruction" in SOV-III (IA-7). It give sacred hull to all the Land Raiders in the Formation, how cool is that (er... not very.) But you get an extra objective if you kill a Greater Daemon/Daemon Prince or Demonic Character (once per game!). And you can re-roll to wound against that one model (once per game!). Huh, huh, isn't that great!? Eh.... no. Fortunately, we have the new SoB one, that let the exorcist shoot twice in one turn and not shoot in the next. Because that's a lot better than shooting every turn!!! You know, the kind of game-breaking datasheet apocalypse is all about!? Oh well, I've kind of thrown the towel when it comes to the =I= and Apocalyspe. I've got my Marines for that. Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187356-gk-redeemer-rules-upcomming-datasheets/page/2/#findComment-2263454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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