Excess Nerd Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I was reading the rules for Gift of Chaos and Boon of Mutation. I was wondering if you knew what models were in a transport if you could target them with either one of these b/c Boon says no line of sight required so that leads me to believe if the model using it and mentally perceive its target it would be legal to use on models hiding in the transport. So the question is can you target models inside a transport with either Gift or Boon? PS I know this is a very silly and stupid question but if you can target things while inside to something outside it makes a reasonable amount of sense that it would work the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 No because the model is not on the board essentially while in the transport... boon them from inside your own transport tho... That is my feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atheist Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I'd like to remind all that gift of chaos is a non shooting psychic power that consequently needs no line of sight and fire point to be used . What this means is that you can easily cast it from inside a Land Raider and measure 6" from the hull of the armored monstrosity . Also , it would be useful to point out that models with MoT may attempt to use the Gift of Chaos psychic power twice in their turn ( although this would mean that they give the "instakill" use of their force weapon for that turn ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeden Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The problem with Gift of Chaos is that it is used before movement so it makes it difficult to get in on a target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atheist Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 True that , but imagine the joy of surgically removing powerklaws from ork mobs . Oh the joy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeden Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Naw... not the Powerklaw Ork... Think of the Special Characters! Marneus Calger? SPAWN! Abaddon? SPAWN! Eldrad? SPAWN! Gazghull? SPAWN! An entire Grand Company of Space Wolves befalling a particularly Spawn-happy Sorcerer? =D D= -Goes off to grumble on about the deficiencies of Tzeentch Sorcerers compared to lesser psykers- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 and they are somehow 6" from your HQ before your movment phase . yeah what kind of a player one has to be to do something like that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 and they are somehow 6" from your HQ before your movment phase . yeah what kind of a player one has to be to do something like that ? The most common way is you are in close combat with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiemnex Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Daemon prince in base contact with a squad of marines with a power fist.... Buh Bye little power fist... Buh bye now.. Sorc Deepstrikes in... Buh buy little jump pack rune priest.. Buh bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atheist Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 With your permission , I'd like to correct you on this one : Powers that are used at the start of the turn may not be used in the same turn that the unit deep strikes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeden Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Atheist is correct, the game goes: Start Turn Start Turn Psyker Powers Reserves/Outflanks/Deepstrikes Then the normal routine of movement and what not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Where does it say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeden Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Doesn't explicitly say in the rulebook but I think it's in the FAQ. Start of Turn Psychic Powers take place before/at the same time as Deepstrike thus Gift of Chaos can't be used on turn you deepstrike. Edit: Just remembered, the actual wording used was closer to: "Deepstrike is taken place during Movement Phase which is after the Start of the turn" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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