hendrik Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I agree, though, that just because a tank is named after Russ, the SW don't necessarily need to use it. There's an aircraft carrier named after George Washington, but he was no sailor. I read this topic, got sick of the flaming in our own fang, a place where this is higly frowned upon, bu this really made my day! an ale to you! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantyr Greymantle Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Geo did commission a naval force and told them to attack the British Navy and then he was President when we created the US Navy (if I recall my history) - so, while he wasn't a sailor, he certainly was pro navy… …what is curious to me, I guess, is the animosity by wolves to the idea of wolves ever having been given a LRE in the first place - If I were a Space Wolf Lord and was given a tank to use, one that was named after my Primarch, in honor of my Primarch, I'd probably use it rather than complain that I was even given the tool in the first place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 It was a fun bit of fluff that truly was a balance piece points wise. It is a game after all, so have some fun. It made the SW just a little different and quite honestly was one of the things that drew me to the SW when I decided on the Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantyr Greymantle Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 mine's still gonna see the table top - even if I have to pretend it's a Predator Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Does anyone remember how bad our Long Fangs sucked after losing Over Watch? Do you? I do. The tank was tossed in at the same time we suddenly could not teleport. Remember teleporting your Wolf Gaurd into the enemy lines? I do. They screw things up all the time. Everytime they put out a book. And they never seem to have a legitamit reason. It's all a crap shoot with them. Here is the total monkey @^%! this time around. All other Marines get 12 slot Rhinos and Drop pods and we do not. Strange. It was not a balancing factor. NO they just screwed up and didn't proof read the book well, so we have the same gear used by all marines, and yet it's the suck for us. I have a Leman Russ Exterm and it was fun, but a Pred Destructor was cheaper and did just as good. It was added in 3rd edition. Why? Some say cause or Long Fangs blew so much. Maybe. Regaurdless it's not a tragic lose as we can get 3 Land Raider Crusaders now. Which is what we need cause the morons at GW FORGOT TO READ THE CARRING CAPCITY OF ALL TRANSPORTS AND MAKE IT UNIFORM FOR ALL MARINES. Silly GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 All other Marines get 12 slot Rhinos and Drop pods and we do not. do by all other you mean the codex sm ones, because you know ther are a lot more sm with legal codex that have rhinos with 10 man max. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrchief33 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 He probably meant 12 cap drop pods and standard Land Raiders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 The amusing thing about the transport options was they admitted at Games Day that 'oh we realised that Rhinos and Land Raiders and Pods having all these extra spaces was a mistake and we are going back to the original sizes'. Although it would have been a great idea to standardize equipment, do it in one go, not randomly between codexes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I think that was a bunch of BS- or why not errata C:SM? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 'That would confuse people who just bought the codex' Was the answer I was given to that very question. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I think it is a balance thing. Making drop pods and rhinos hold 12 marines would give SW the ability to have full special weapons with a WG leader together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I think it is a balance thing. Making drop pods and rhinos hold 12 marines would give SW the ability to have full special weapons with a WG leader together. I agree, and I can understand that- what I cant understand is why they couldnt say that. Im not upset they changed it for a balance issue, Im upset that they are either being rude or lying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I think it is a balance thing. Making drop pods and rhinos hold 12 marines would give SW the ability to have full special weapons with a WG leader together. I agree, and I can understand that- what I cant understand is why they couldnt say that. Im not upset they changed it for a balance issue, Im upset that they are either being rude or lying. I am not anti-GW in any way, but I do criticize them when needed, and I am sure beyond a doubt that they are lying or 'covering their tracks' as I like to call it. This is nothing new and has happened before in 40k as well as in Warhammer fantasy. What irks me the most is that you buy figures that are not cheap, invest in an army and after 3 or 4 years you can't play with them anymore - ex our LR and Wulfen. If they were truly respectful towards their patrons they would find a way to let us use our investments. This is their responsibility. For example if they had invested two more months and added six pages to our codex with an extra and revised army list for the 13th, all of us would still have bought the codex even if it costed a few quid more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2221779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Im not upset they changed it for a balance issue, Im upset that they are either being rude or lying. No argument there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187675-leman-russ-tanks-in-a-space-wolves-army/page/2/#findComment-2222855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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