Requiemnex Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 We have all seen the lists with the Lord Claws MoK Terminator Armor Terminator x4 Claws Champs MoK Land Raider ..... What I am curious about... How many people considered running Same Lord Terminator x4 Champion x4 Claws MoS - Initiative 5 would give them a severe edge. Against IC. IE they strike at the same time.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse. Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Assuming most of your opponents are exactly initiative 4 or 5, then yes it would be a severe advantage. Much of the time however, a consistant +1 attack per model fares better, because you will face things that are so numerous, attacks matter more, or face things that always strike first (you have no frag grenades, facing banshee's, genestealers etc). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/#findComment-2222484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I prefer IoS on my clawed termies. Hitting first or at the same time even is better than the extra attack, in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/#findComment-2222485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I'd do MoS because the icon is 1/2 the price. Even normal Terminators with dual claws have 4 attacks on the charge, thats not bad by any means really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/#findComment-2222643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Do MoS, single claw, and combi weapon. Comes to the same price as MoK in a 5 man squad and frontloads a lot more damage (assuming one guy is fist and heavy flamer/combi) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/#findComment-2222728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiemnex Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 Well it had occured to me that I5 pretty much enables you to get a majority of your attacks in BEFORE or at the same time as the other person strikes IE keeping you from getting walluped by a power weapon Commander or Lord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/#findComment-2223196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDeath Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I find IoS is best for claws, as I only take them in bigger games, or if I know I'm playing marines. I5 power weapons on marines is severely awesome, you can happily chew through squads with some good rolls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/#findComment-2223260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I run a 9 man chosen squad in my raider with IoS, 4 sets of claws, a flamer and a slanneshi lord with a blissgiver. It has less claw attacks than the terminator squad, but it's less of a problem if theres a PK nob or fist sergeant that makes it through, and the squad can make sweeping advances. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/#findComment-2224536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiemnex Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 Where in 5th ed does it say that terminators can not make sweeping advances? They have completely changed the way masacre and sweeping advances work... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/#findComment-2224570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Where in 5th ed does it say that terminators can not make sweeping advances? They have completely changed the way masacre and sweeping advances work... In the terminator armor section of the codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187826-term-champs-claws/#findComment-2224726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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