Lord Ragnarok Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Nicely done WolvesofFenris :angry: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2341689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Hey everyone, I have spent some time playtesting and math-hammering and currently run my Thunderwolf Cavalry in the following configuration. 1 Bolt Pistol / Close Combat Weapon 1 Storm Shield / Close Combat Weapon and Meltabombs 1 Bolt Pistol / Powerfist 1 Storm Shield / Close Combat Weapon 1 Wolf Lord gets attached to them, he has Wolf Claw Storm Shield Thunderwolf mount Wolf Tail Talisman Saga of the Warrior Born Runic Armor 2 Fenrisian Wolves Melta Bombs I think 35 points is worth the boost in quality 2xSS absorb up to 2 PF attacks...unless you face another expensive hammer this gives a good chance to nullify highest S attacks MB gives WL a chance to pop dreadnaughts...one of the few things they fear (believe this is done at I5 but not sure) Total = 620 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2341858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Hey everyone, I have spent some time playtesting and math-hammering and currently run my Thunderwolf Cavalry in the following configuration. 1 Bolt Pistol / Close Combat Weapon 1 Bolt Pistol / Close Combat Weapon and Meltabombs 1 Bolt Pistol / Powerfist 1 Storm Shield / Close Combat Weapon 1 Wolf Lord gets attached to them, he has Wolf Claw Storm Shield Thunderwolf mount Wolf Tail Talisman Saga of the Warrior Born Runic Armor 2 Fenrisian Wolves This squad costs a fair amount (~ 535pts) but the Wolf Lord really makes them hit hard. Since he is base T5 the wolf lord does not get insta-killed by anything short of S10. The wolf claw is better than a frost blade for the wolf lord in nearly every situation (exceptions are T7 and T9). Especially when he hits a T3 enemy and chooses re-roll to hit. This can quickly catapult his saga up to 10+ bonus attacks. The Fenrisian wolves act as ablative wounds and engage any enemy powerfist/claw models or uberkilly characters so they can't hurt my cavalry. Between the SS on the lord and the SS in the squad they can take most heavy fire coming in, especially if they use cover. All around it is a very durable and hard hitting combination. Thats a very expensive Wolf Lord though, while I dont disagree with his effictivness I think you would be better served putting Canis in the unit. At 185 he is like 90 points cheaper. That gives you enough points for another unit of something else. x5 sniper scouts. x1 TDA SS TH lone wolf almost enough for x2 more basic TWC. Whirlwind dakka Pred Well you get the point..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2342069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Hey everyone, I have spent some time playtesting and math-hammering and currently run my Thunderwolf Cavalry in the following configuration. 1 Bolt Pistol / Close Combat Weapon 1 Bolt Pistol / Close Combat Weapon and Meltabombs 1 Bolt Pistol / Powerfist 1 Storm Shield / Close Combat Weapon 1 Wolf Lord gets attached to them, he has Wolf Claw Storm Shield Thunderwolf mount Wolf Tail Talisman Saga of the Warrior Born Runic Armor 2 Fenrisian Wolves This squad costs a fair amount (~ 535pts) but the Wolf Lord really makes them hit hard. Since he is base T5 the wolf lord does not get insta-killed by anything short of S10. The wolf claw is better than a frost blade for the wolf lord in nearly every situation (exceptions are T7 and T9). Especially when he hits a T3 enemy and chooses re-roll to hit. This can quickly catapult his saga up to 10+ bonus attacks. The Fenrisian wolves act as ablative wounds and engage any enemy powerfist/claw models or uberkilly characters so they can't hurt my cavalry. Between the SS on the lord and the SS in the squad they can take most heavy fire coming in, especially if they use cover. All around it is a very durable and hard hitting combination. Thats a very expensive Wolf Lord though, while I dont disagree with his effictivness I think you would be better served putting Canis in the unit. At 185 he is like 90 points cheaper. That gives you enough points for another unit of something else. x5 sniper scouts. x1 TDA SS TH lone wolf almost enough for x2 more basic TWC. Whirlwind dakka Pred Well you get the point..... But Canis will die much quicker...I see Canis as a troop killer extraordinaire. (no inv, enhances Fennies, and has the ability to have a ton of attacks on many model units) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2342227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrunner Posted April 1, 2010 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 This would really look good in the Librarium Nightrunner :) Sigsimund.... I have no idea how to move it there!!!! But Canis will die much quicker...I see Canis as a troop killer extraordinaire. (no inv, enhances Fennies, and has the ability to have a ton of attacks on many model units) I agree with LR. Canis looks great on paper, and up to 1000pts can be really effective at damaging small units and "line" units e.g. basic tac squads, guard etc. However, two things that make the basic WL better; one, he can have Runic Armour; two, the much-loved storm shield. Canis will fail one in every 3 wounds that he takes, and is no tougher than a WL. For the extra cost, you might lose an attack, but a canny opponent won't give you loads of opportunities to throw Canis in anyway. Plus, LD 10 is an amazing boost on a unit of TWC, and is just another area that Canis falls down in. NR ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2342614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund Himself Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 This would really look good in the Librarium Nightrunner :) Sigsimund.... I have no idea how to move it there!!!! NR ;) Well luckily there's this super handy guide ;) A Dummy's Guide to Submitting Articles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2342617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 You forgot something about the TWC. that i have been doing in 1750 points. I use them as lone wolves, they hunter the isolated units, the bombarders. I use them as assualt snipers. To pick out that defiler hiding behind cover or that devestator squad hiding in cover etc. Or as a frontal spear so that it frees up other targets for my drop pod squads to hit. But primarily i use in 1750 points: 2x Thunder wolves 1x Power fist ( I didn't use thunder hammers as their role is mainly anti-tank and will avoid mc if possible and because i found it hard to fit in the extra 10 points to go up to thunder hammers, which i prefer ) 125 points 2x Thunder wolves 1x Power fist ( I didn't use thunder hammers as their role is mainly anti-tank and will avoid mc if possible and because i found it hard to fit in the extra 10 points to go up to thunder hammers, which i prefer ) 125 points Alongside a drop pod assualt with 3 pods supported by fire support from 2 devestator squads, two priests and a CML. thanks antique_nova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2342635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Yeah, someone else in our forum (I think vorpal doom) mentioned 1 or 2 TWC often do the trick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2342657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrunner Posted April 1, 2010 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 This would really look good in the Librarium Nightrunner :) Sigsimund.... I have no idea how to move it there!!!! NR ;) Well luckily there's this super handy guide ;) A Dummy's Guide to Submitting Articles. If only my eyes were keener.....I'm going to be a long fang soon enough!!! Will submit it now ;) Thanks! NR :nuke: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2342659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJayC50 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Nice tactica dood! pretty much confirmed what I had gathered for myself but its nice to see it written down. I'm playing at Bristol,uk in the vanquish tourney with wolves and i have 5 TWC 1 x thunderhammer (coz of MC and the like, i want the next phase to finish them off as they should hopefully be I1) 2 normal doods 1 with MB and 2 storm shields 1 with bombs also. Interesting fact about saving the special weapon tho. I guess i decided against it because, like you i thought that 2 would have to be the logical limit (after testing i was proven correct) The shear number of shots these guys take is phenomenal. The problem that gets me is not from AT fire but from lots of heavy bolters! forcing saves on Storm shield doods with bolt rounds is heartbreaking! Might try adding canis - I have already stepped back from taking the WL with all the warrior trimmings. He was awesome but he costs so very very much! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2343450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReyRex Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 You forgot something about the TWC. that i have been doing in 1750 points. I use them as lone wolves, they hunter the isolated units, the bombarders. I use them as assualt snipers. To pick out that defiler hiding behind cover or that devestator squad hiding in cover etc. Or as a frontal spear so that it frees up other targets for my drop pod squads to hit. But primarily i use in 1750 points: 2x Thunder wolves 1x Power fist ( I didn't use thunder hammers as their role is mainly anti-tank and will avoid mc if possible and because i found it hard to fit in the extra 10 points to go up to thunder hammers, which i prefer ) 125 points 2x Thunder wolves 1x Power fist ( I didn't use thunder hammers as their role is mainly anti-tank and will avoid mc if possible and because i found it hard to fit in the extra 10 points to go up to thunder hammers, which i prefer ) 125 points Alongside a drop pod assualt with 3 pods supported by fire support from 2 devestator squads, two priests and a CML. thanks antique_nova Good comments there Antique_Nova, email that army list :P now that I almost have my TWC together I want to try as many different set-ups as I can Rex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/187941-unit-tactica-thunderwolf-cavalry/page/3/#findComment-2350795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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