Saga of the Hunter and outflanking

[rahl02]

Wolf scouts gain the outflank ability because they have scout and infiltrate, but when the WGBL with saga of the hunter joins the unit and does not have those 2 "skills" then the scouts lose those abilities while he's attached, therefore, they no longer have outflank.

 

Outflank is not its own special rule. It's something you gain if you have the special rule infiltrate or scout and since they will lose those 2 rules then they would lose the ability to outflank.

 

Believe me, I hope they FAQ it and allow it, but as per the RAW it wouldn't fly atm.

 

You are absolutely correct, and now I have to change one of my positions. I used to believe that a Saga of the Hunter hero could not join the Wolf Scouts and operate Behind Enemy Lines (still true), but claimed that the hero could probably join the Scouts and they'd both get to deploy via the standard Outflank chart. However, upon further review, based upon the above quotes from the rulebook; if an Independent Character without either Scout or Infiltrate (which a Saga of the Hunter Wolf Priest or Battle Leader still doesn't have) attaches to a unit with Scout/Infiltrate, then they lose these USR's. So, the Wolf Scouts would lose their ability to Outflank (both the conventional Outflank Move and the Behind Enemy Lines special variation), because they would no longer be considered to have either the Scout and/or Infiltrate rule, since the attached IC takes it away from them.

 

Thanks GW designers. Time for an errata now - FAQ won't be good enough.

 

V

 

Actually the outflank is a special rule, it actually says so on pg 94 under "Mission Special Rules". If it wasn't its own special rule then the saga would have just given the Battle Leader Scout and Infiltrate, rather than Outflank. A special rule that must be declared during deployment.

 

I looked at that also, but the issue is the fact that the IC does not share the same universal special rules as the scouts and since infiltrate, scout and move through cover all have an (*) they would end up losing all 3 of those abilities and their ability to outflank would then be lost also. Even if you want to argue that outflank is a "mission special rule" where it is listed, it still would not change the fact that it isn't a "universal special rule" and that is why it doesn't work.

 

If I was looking at this from a RAI point of view I would completely agree that the Saga was meant to be used to attach to scouts, but until an FAQ comes out we just have to use the rules as written, not as we wish they were.

 

This is true. Had the scouts had outflank, then it would have worked. RAI it should work. Sadly until a FAQ is released you are correct.