Brother Ariman Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Okay with the release of the awesome new plastic trygon model I have to ask: Would it be wrong to say put a muzzle and mount on it with a marine riding on top of its shoulders rein in hand? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Anonymous Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 It's probably too big for a non-MC model, honestly. That, and both models may not use the same base size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergtorp Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Might be nice as a conversion, but playvise I would put him on a Ravener. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ariman Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Thanks fr the quick feedback, I am pretty sure though that Canis and the Trygon have the same base size because Canis and the Carnifex share the same size. The main concern I have is if it will be too tall though I think it should be okay because it would be like a thunderwolf standing on its hind legs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 so instead of riding over sized wolves we now started riding tyranids? imo a tyranid would never be trusted for such a thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 it would be funny though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
altmann Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Ok since no one will say it I will: Do not do this. It will not look cool and it will be dumb. If we are not allowed to answer questions negatively, then people should not ask questions on this forum about whether something should be done. Because the only answers they will receive will be positive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I'm usually liberal in terms of conversion opps which are out of the box thinking but I just think that this is too much for a space marine (SW or no). I think they'd kill the thing and feed all the meat to the Fenrisian Wolves and Thunder wolves. Would make sense for say....orks, but not SM's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergtorp Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 What Warboss wouldn't want a Trygon as his mount? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 the trygon is on the same size base as a valkyrie so you wouldn't legally be allowed to use it as canis. with work though you could convert it up tp be a kraken and mount it on a smaller base (although how awkward the model would look is a problem) or you could use it on its normal base and write an apocalypse datasheet for it... maybe a cool idea for engir krakendoom... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I don't like capping imagination and the variety of models that come out of it, so if you think you can pull it off do it and post some pics. But you might have problems in game terms, so I'd go with what stinkenheim advised. It seems like the best solution to your idea. Personally, I think it is a bit unfluffy and over-the-top. I'd rather build a scene with a SW heroically fighting a lost battle against a Trygon than riding one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 2 points. The first is Canis' entire body is part of the Wolf's body so u can't cut him off. The second is the bases are completely different sizes. Trygons come on Valkyrie bases, Canis is a 60mm round base. And the third bonus point is DON'T DO THIS IT WILL LOOK RETARDED. You may as well start building Shoop Da Whoop Tau using Kinder Eggs for heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2234956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 as i read it sama, he wasn't going to use canis but make a marine to ride atop the beast... therefore the fact that canis is moulded onto fangir doesn't enter into it. as for it being 'retarded', in normal 40k games it would look stragne i admit, but in an apocalypse game it could be an interesting way to give spacewolves a sortofsuperheavy unit whilst still having its origins in fluff (assuming it were modelled to look like a kraken). done well it could be a very interesting creation and certainly shouldn't be written off straight away because you might not like the idea. if the op does decide to do this conversion then it is certainly somethingthat would need alot of planning and thought to look half way decent and i personally would shy away from using the straight out the box trygon but hey, it'll be interesting to watch this space. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2235304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Carlin Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 As long as its the same sized base so its not talking advantage of the rules that he has then I think its ok, the mental image it hilarious. Just make sure its the same base size that he would be on anyway Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2235366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I have two ork buddies who have "looted canifexes" in their army. Look great, and is really funny. But w/ SW, I don't know. The Kraken-idea for apoc sounds like loads of fun tough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2235416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 How many thumpers do you think youd need to get a trygon? Im saying about 12. Dunno, if you built it well, and painted it really well, you could probly pull it off- after all this is the game where superhuman mutants fight for the emperor whose empires goal is the destruction of anything not a normal human fighting against giant sentient space fungi who speak in cockney accents and build things from blue prints found in their DNA and use their own teeth as money. I mean come on, as long as you do it well and paint it nice, it cant really be over the top now can it? Besides, the one I say done with a carnifex turned out pretty good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2235737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ariman Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share Posted January 5, 2010 Thanks for the comments guys and I actually posted this not for applause but for different recommendations and criticisms, and the kraken idea is actually quite good. Right now I have revised my ideas abit given the information about base size. 1: I will be using a correct size base as not to bring the wrath of the codex rules. 2: Because of this I will probably be only modeling the upper halve of the trygon cutting the tail above the coil. 3: I really like the kraken idea so perhaps I can explain the lack of lower coil due to water, also perhaps I can add a cthulu mouth to make it more krakenish. 4: pose idea for marine: large chaos terminator like lightingclaw hel out infront of him while his other hand grips a rein which is embedded in the creatures upper back or back of the cranium. Also I would like to say that the inclusion of such a model would not be the craziest idea for my army due to the fact that I am somewhat of a mad scientist marine army, with a cybered up carnifex for a dreadnought and arcoflagellent/robot/genestealer hybrids for fenrisian wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2235792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfGuardVortek Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Do your have pictures of said mad scientist army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2235854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 idea from a modelling perspective sounds cool, B4 we even had thunder wolves i always wanted to mount a wolf lord on those fantasy t rex the lizerdmen had (saurus) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2236125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Carnosaurs.... *sighs* Still need to get me one of those, beautiful model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2236274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenmichi Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I have two ork buddies who have "looted canifexes" in their army. Look great, and is really funny. But w/ SW, I don't know. The Kraken-idea for apoc sounds like loads of fun tough. A looted Carnifex? Are the Orks trolling around in its rib cage? [edit] Google warranted very amusing pictures. Thumbs up to the looted Carnifex! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2236283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ariman Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Do your have pictures of said mad scientist army? Sadly I have a really crappy camera so I could only get long shots that wouldn't show any details. Talking about this project though, what do you guys think about using green stuff, and toxic sack tubes from some carnifexs as the main tentacles- suction cups and all and for the secondary tentacles how about these from the new venomthrope? Also for the marine head I'm thinking using the 4 braid bearded head from the space wolves tact box, the one on page 70 of the codex. http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_Custom...ope_873x627.jpg Please do not hotlink. Save the pic and link it from your own photo account (photobucket etc...) Lord Ragnarok Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2237122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfGuardVortek Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 It looks good. You might want to draw some concept sketches before you start to help you plan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2237430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander alexander Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Just for kicks and giggles (and the fact I like the new nid models :P), I may try making a counts-as-thunderwolf kraken myself, maybe for my Iron priest that I have sketched up if any of you have seen my WIP (there is a link in my sig) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2237449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I'm usually liberal in terms of conversion opps which are out of the box thinking but I just think that this is too much for a space marine (SW or no). I think they'd kill the thing and feed all the meat to the Fenrisian Wolves and Thunder wolves. Would make sense for say....orks, but not SM's. funny story a buddy of mine loves orks and how they loot everything... so for apoc he has "looted" fexes with lootas on their backs , who happen to be wearing cowboy hats! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/188846-canis-wolfborn-conversion-idea/#findComment-2237770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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