Dreadnoughts

[Thunderpup]

This is probably a simple question, but...

 

If a Dreadnought loses it's Close Combat Weapon, do it's Str6 attacks still ignore armor saves?

 

Thanks,

 

Pup

[stinkenheim]

no, the only reason a dreadnaught ignores armour is because of its DCCW.

 

its although worth noting that by destroying the CCW your opponent has also destroyed the built in weapon (either flamer of stormbolter)

[Thunderpup]

At least I've been playing it correctly then. (and secretly wishing i wasn't)

 

Thank you Stinkenheim. <cheers>

[Spazmonkey]

its although worth noting that by destroying the CCW your opponent has also destroyed the built in weapon (either flamer of stormbolter)

 

 

Really?

What if the bolter of flamer is chest/body mounted like on some FW models?

[DapperDave]

its although worth noting that by destroying the CCW your opponent has also destroyed the built in weapon (either flamer of stormbolter)

 

 

Really?

What if the bolter of flamer is chest/body mounted like on some FW models?

 

 

Yea... I'm thinking the same thing. But even for the arm mounted weapons, it says "weapon" destroyed not "body part." This reminds me of the time someone tried to claim that a weapon destroyed result on a tau skyray could remove the whole turret (6 seeker missiles and 2 markerlights). On a similar note, alot of IG vehicles can have stubbers on top of turrets - I don't think a single weapon destroyed result would destroy both the main weapon and the stubber.

[SamaNagol]

The DCCW comes with a 'built in' storm bolter, and as such count as one weapon.

[Spazmonkey]

The DCCW comes with a 'built in' storm bolter, and as such count as one weapon.

 

Cool that makes sense.

Can you tell me te page i can reference this rule.

I know I wont be believed if i dont have the proof....

[ChainsawDR]

thats good to know, I never realised that before - codex does say "built in"

 

Cheers guys

[stinkenheim]

p 73 BRB in the box called 'Dreadnaught Close Combat Weapons;

 

Walkers are often armed with huge close combat weapons- hammers, wrecking balls, claws etc. A DCCW is a power weapon (NOT fist for people who argue that it should strike at I 1, and there are some out there) and doubles the walkers strength in CC (up to 10).

 

If the walker suffers a weapon destroyed result and the player chooses the CCW, the walker loses the bonuses conferred by the DCCW (and any other weapon built into the same arm)